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tsturm



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 9:14 am    Post subject: Re: Navigation Lights Are Dead Reply with quote

Tug wrote:
The other night I went to turn on my navigation lights and nothing worked.
See pictures I just posted.
The rocker panel navigation light comes on but when I pull out the knob to activate the running lights but the fuse blows. I have power to the back of the rocker panel and one of the three wire connections on the back of the navigation switch. I not sure if there should be power to all the three wire connections.
When my wired Navigation Compass was stolen and ripped out , it looks like the wire was pulled hard. Yet, there are no loose or obvious signs of damage. The back side of the navigational switch three connections look corroded but it's been like that for ten years , always worked fine. I was leaving that for the last if I can't find the problem. Thanks Tug


I have also come across an incorrect bulb installed in the running light globe causing a dead short. The correct bulb in this case was a 2 contact the replacement was a single contact.
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Tug



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 12:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hardee...the light I was referring to was the little light just above the cabin door . it to is prone to water leakage. I leave the pole light in the connector when my boat is at the marina and remove it when I am towing also. Thanks for the tip about the Pole light , good idea. Tug
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hardee



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 1:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tug, I found this pix with, I think, the right view. There is a small light above teh door and also a tall light, front of teh cabin top.



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"I went to turn on my navigation lights and nothing worked."


So, Which one is the navigation light? ON some boats the tall pole light is both all around light for navigation, and also the anchor light. (That is the way mine is.) ON some, the small light over the door is the aft facing, white, running light, OR it might be just a white cockpit light, as mine is.

Sorry for the confusion. But yes, the pole light like "Rescue Tape" a bunch. Me too.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 4:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

On some of the early C Dorys there was a rear facing stern running light. I believe that some of these had the two bulb forward steaming light. For an anchor light both bulbs were activated. For the navigation light, the forward steaming light (225* forward), and the stern steaming (135*sector aft) lights were activated. My 1993 22 had this arrangement. It uses a little more power both with running navigation lights, and more importantly for anchor lights it uses 2X the power.
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Wood Zeppelin



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2022 2:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a question about that switch (Hardee posted a pic above).

On mine, when I pulled the switch to the first position "navigation", the anchor light would come on. Then to 2nd position "anchor", and the nav lights came on. Seems someone wired it backwards. I fixed it, and noticed the switch has four terminals. Power, nav, anchor, and one unused.

I also noticed that the Nav light (red/green combo) comes on by itself. The "anchor" light only comes on in anchor position. Should the white "anchor" light on top also come on with the Nav lights?

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2022 9:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The navigation lights are Red, Green and all around white light. You MUST have the all around steaming light on when running at night. This same light becomes an anchor light, when it is on alone, and the boat is at anchor.

So the switch is incorrectly wired.
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Wood Zeppelin



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2022 11:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's what I thought...

Thanks Bob!

Does anyone know what's up with my 4-terminal switch? The ones I see on here and for sale online all seem to be three terminals.
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ssobol



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2022 4:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wood Zeppelin wrote:
That's what I thought...

Thanks Bob!

Does anyone know what's up with my 4-terminal switch? The ones I see on here and for sale online all seem to be three terminals.


Extra terminal could be for a stern light (on larger boats).
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