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Captain Pete
Joined: 27 May 2021 Posts: 3
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Posted: Fri May 28, 2021 11:21 am Post subject: Looking to buy 1990 22 Cruiser questions |
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Hello Cbrats!
Looking very seriously at a freshwater lightly used 1990 Cruiser, hull is in good condition.
Has a very low hours 2014 Honda 60 hp , no kicker.
EZ Loader trailer, new tires, no brakes.
110 electric panel and 1 gfci outlet, but no shore power outlet.
Needs thorough cleaning and compounding, has sat in two owners barns a lot.
Cushions decent and some working electronics.
Fuel hoses and maybe bilge pumps, sink faucet, orrigo burners, floor coverings, etc all look ready for replacement
Asking $20,000 pretty firm.
I would be a frequent Great Lakes single handed 3-4 nights marinas and on the hook cruiser.
Possible do upgrades for a long run to Florida.
What do you think of this boat-motor trailer and the price? I’m in your debt for you sharing your expertise and wisdom.
Thank you very much. |
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T.R. Bauer
Joined: 17 Nov 2007 Posts: 1808 City/Region: Wasilla
State or Province: AK
C-Dory Year: 1993
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: C-Whisperer
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Posted: Fri May 28, 2021 12:17 pm Post subject: |
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I honestly don't think this is that great of a buy to be completely honest. The 60 hp makes it painfully slow, it needs electronics and other updates, and the trailer really needs to have brakes on a boat like this. By the time you tackle all that, I'm pretty sure you find one turn key for the same or less money. However, you would have new stuff and the other boat would have used stuff and that's worth something. I'd pass, but that's me. |
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PaulNBriannaLynn
Joined: 26 Oct 2012 Posts: 757 City/Region: Fort White
State or Province: FL
C-Dory Year: 2007
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: TBD
Photos: Lorelei
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Posted: Fri May 28, 2021 12:44 pm Post subject: |
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I think you'd need a sea trial to decide if 60 hp is enough for you. Many folks here like to cruise along at a slower pace almost all the time. For them, its a pretty good price. I like to smash around in the mid 20s fully loaded for camping, so this motor wouldn't work for me. I'd also be curious if that's the original trailer or not. A 1990 trailer is getting older. Not that its not still serviceable, it very well could be. But it may not provide the confidence needed for a long haul to Florida and back. Just those two items, should you decide to upgrade later, might set you back another $15k.
So yeah its a fair price for what it is if its in good condition and could be left alone and enjoyed as is. If it has a lot of needs, youll end up underwater at 20k so Id offer less. Good luck!! _________________ 2007 22 cruiser sold 10/2021
2009 Parker 23 sold 10/2017
2003 22 cruiser sold 3/2016 |
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Wandering Sagebrush
Joined: 21 Jan 2005 Posts: 2783 City/Region: Northeast Oregon
State or Province: OR
C-Dory Year: 2005
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Constant Craving
Photos: Constant Craving
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Posted: Sat May 29, 2021 9:52 am Post subject: |
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Hi Pete,
I looked at the ad, and the boat looks in fairly decent condition. It will be a slow boat if loaded for cruising, especially if at altitude. The electronics are dated, and might need replacing. The trailer, if not corroded should do the job, but a tandem axle for long distances would be better. If that is OK with you, make a reasonable lower offer. The worst the seller can do is say no.
If you find you want more horsepower, you could go to a 90 or 115. A more complex and possibly more expensive upgrade might be to add a second Honda 60. Suzuki motors seem to be more affordable here in Oregon, maybe there, too.
Regards,
Steve
_________________ "And in the end, it's not the years in your life that count. It's the life in your years." - Abraham Lincoln |
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DayBreak
Joined: 16 Jul 2017 Posts: 1024 City/Region: Monmouth, Or.
State or Province: OR
C-Dory Year: 2018
C-Dory Model: 23 Venture
Vessel Name: DayBreak
Photos: DayBreak
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Posted: Sat May 29, 2021 11:01 am Post subject: |
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Steve makes a great point. To put a second but used Honda 60 hp on it (used to keep the cost down) would make the boat worth more for re-sale and give you that extra power if needed. _________________ Gary F
DayBreak, 23 Venture, 2018 - present |
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colbysmith
Joined: 02 Oct 2011 Posts: 4957 City/Region: Madison
State or Province: WI
C-Dory Year: 2009
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: C-Traveler
Photos: C-Traveler and Midnight-Flyer
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Posted: Sat May 29, 2021 5:32 pm Post subject: |
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If the boat and trailer weighs more than 3,000 lbs, you need brakes on it. Electric brakes may be fairly inexpensive to add, if you are mechanically inclined. I'm guessing it does weigh very close to, if not more than 3000 lbs. For any long distance trailering, you will want a decent trailer to protect the investment you have sitting on it. Colby |
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Captain Pete
Joined: 27 May 2021 Posts: 3
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Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2021 12:28 pm Post subject: |
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Thank you very much Steve Gary Colby for sharing your expertise.
The seller was stuck on $19k and I knew it would take money and time and effort making me underwater and the boat would still be underpowered.
Walking away felt freeing.
You guys helped me get past the original love at first sight. |
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Wandering Sagebrush
Joined: 21 Jan 2005 Posts: 2783 City/Region: Northeast Oregon
State or Province: OR
C-Dory Year: 2005
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Constant Craving
Photos: Constant Craving
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Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2021 2:16 pm Post subject: |
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Captain Pete wrote: | Thank you very much Steve Gary Colby for sharing your expertise.
The seller was stuck on $19k and I knew it would take money and time and effort making me underwater and the boat would still be underpowered.
Walking away felt freeing.
You guys helped me get past the original love at first sight. |
If you haven’t already, you might let the seller know that you would be interested at the lower price if he changes his mind. |
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T.R. Bauer
Joined: 17 Nov 2007 Posts: 1808 City/Region: Wasilla
State or Province: AK
C-Dory Year: 1993
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: C-Whisperer
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Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2021 4:03 pm Post subject: |
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Captain Pete wrote: | Thank you very much Steve Gary Colby for sharing your expertise.
The seller was stuck on $19k and I knew it would take money and time and effort making me underwater and the boat would still be underpowered.
Walking away felt freeing.
You guys helped me get past the original love at first sight. |
Walking away from a bad deal is a good feeling for sure! I hope you find what you are looking for. If you can swing it, 30k normally buys a pretty nice CD 22 that isn't a project. I've looked at lots of boats that look good, but when you run the numbers considering age, hours, equipment, and future resale, that good deal starts to pale a considerable amount. And a lot of times, owners are a little too optimistic of the market and simply ask too much. |
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