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crowleykirk
Joined: 05 Jul 2019 Posts: 93 City/Region: Friday Harbor
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2020
C-Dory Model: 23 Venture
Vessel Name: C-Life
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Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2021 6:51 pm Post subject: Bottom cleaning, San Juan Islands |
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Hello Brats. Curious if anyone leaves their C-Dory in the water all year or even part time and how often and whom you might recommend for bottom cleaning.
Thanks,
Kirk _________________ Kirk Williams |
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smckean (Tosca)
Joined: 18 Jan 2014 Posts: 975 City/Region: Guemes Island (Anacortes)
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2005
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Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2021 8:26 pm Post subject: |
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I can tell you that in the summer months here in the San Juans after 3 to 5 weeks in the water, there's a surprising amount of growth on the bottom of my CD25. There's enough growth that I don't like to leave it on the mooring ball longer than that; so I haul it out every month or so on the trailer and power wash the bottom. I particularly dislike the barnacles; I find they come off fairly easily unless they have grown a bit. 3-5 weeks seems to be the knee of the curve on that. (Of course this is without bottom paint.) _________________ Sandy McKean
Purchased Tosca in 2014
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DayBreak
Joined: 16 Jul 2017 Posts: 850 City/Region: Monmouth, Or.
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C-Dory Model: 23 Venture
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Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2021 10:25 pm Post subject: |
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Good information Sandy. We have never had our boat in the water for more than 2 weeks at a time and I was wondering about that. Seems like two weeks of travel on the water may be the limit for those who do not have bottom paint on their boat. Boats in travel may also have the benefit of keeping the hull clean because of being motored daily. _________________ Gary F
DayBreak, 23 Venture, 2018 - present |
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fidalgoisland
Joined: 31 Jul 2009 Posts: 47 City/Region: Anacortes
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C-Dory Year: 2004
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Vessel Name: Sea Critter
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Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 11:55 am Post subject: |
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My boat is in the water year round in Anacortes. I usually only take it out twice a year. I find there is very little growth except around the water line and on the trim tabs. In addition to the power washing twice a year when I pull the boat I usually scrub around the water line once a month. This past year I finally raised the bottom paint above the usual water line hoping will help. I'll let you know. |
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crowleykirk
Joined: 05 Jul 2019 Posts: 93 City/Region: Friday Harbor
State or Province: WA
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C-Dory Model: 23 Venture
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Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 2:26 pm Post subject: Thank you Sandy |
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We will have bottom paint so hope that helps. I might hire a diver or do it myself. But that seems pretty quick for growth, thanks so much for replying:-) Have a great summer,
Kirk |
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crowleykirk
Joined: 05 Jul 2019 Posts: 93 City/Region: Friday Harbor
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2020
C-Dory Model: 23 Venture
Vessel Name: C-Life
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Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 2:31 pm Post subject: fidalgoisland - Thank you |
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We are also going to go a few inches at least above water line with our bottom paint, sounds like that really helps. I do plan on jumping in the cold water some in summer to do a little clean up myself and of course will try to brush at the dock as well. Looks like I need to invest in a gas power washer:-)
But I may contact a dive service as well. Just curious what they charge. We may be in the water all winter as well and off island, so might want to get that service going.
The yachts we services in Newport CA back in the day and all along the SoCal coast had terrible bottom growth in the warmer waters. A monthly expense there.
Thanks again and enjoy the upcoming season:-) |
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hardee
Joined: 30 Oct 2006 Posts: 12633 City/Region: Sequim
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2005
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Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2021 10:37 am Post subject: |
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Kirk, I have had my bot in for 2 weeks down here in the Sound with just "hose off " growth, but on a 100 day trip up at the north end of Vancouver Island, after 48 days I had barnacles the size of pencil erasers. I now have bottom paint, and I raised the water line about 4 inches. You are welcome to take a look if you like. I don't have pix of the new waterline on the site (yet).
Also, I don't get my trim tabs painted when they did the bottom. I am using dipper rash medicine, Desitine on them. It is a zinc oxide paste and works well.
Harvey
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crowleykirk
Joined: 05 Jul 2019 Posts: 93 City/Region: Friday Harbor
State or Province: WA
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Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2021 11:43 am Post subject: Thanks Harvey, |
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I was thinking 3 inches above water line but I think I'll go 4 inches as well.
Dipper rash medicine, that's interesting:-) Have to look into that.
Thanks so much for the tips.
Kirk |
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Hunkydory
Joined: 28 Mar 2005 Posts: 2660 City/Region: Cokeville, Wyoming
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Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2021 12:06 pm Post subject: |
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I raised our bottom paint line three SE Alaska extended cruises ago & it has made a huge difference in the amount of after trip clean up time. I can’t remember the exact amount of inches raised, but it was enough to cover what before was the normal scum line above the bottom paint.
Jay _________________ Jay and Jolee 2000 22 CD cruiser Hunkydory
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crowleykirk
Joined: 05 Jul 2019 Posts: 93 City/Region: Friday Harbor
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Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2021 1:29 pm Post subject: Thanks Jay:-) |
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If you happen to remember the magic number please let us know.
We will have black bottom paint and the rest of the boat is white and gray, it would actually look pretty nice to have the black above the water line.
I guess in an ideal world we'd gas up the boat and add in our gear and then put it in the water for a measurement.
Or, maybe just go 4 to 6 inches and call it good.
We have (soon) a 23 venture.
Thanks again,
Kirk |
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JamesTXSD
Joined: 01 Mar 2005 Posts: 7445 City/Region: from island boy to desert dweller
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Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2021 1:45 pm Post subject: |
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To get back to the OP - there are two options for bottom cleaning: pull it up on the trailer and powerwash/scrub it, or have a diver scrape the bottom. I know there are a couple divers that do boats in the marina at the Port of Friday Harbor that we used on commercial boats; check with Tami in the marina office, and she may be able to give you some names.
The water in the Salish Sea stays pretty chilly even in summer, which does slow down growth/barnacles; in our sub-tropical climate, an unpainted bottom will be an issue in 10 days or so. If you plan to leave your boat in the water in the San Juans, be sure to have whoever does the work use a bottom paint that will remain effective after being put on a trailer (assuming you want to trailer your boat around). Not all bottom paints are the same. A cruddy bottom will affect boat performance.
When we had our C-Dory done, we applied two coats of barrier paint (after roughing up the gelcoat with sandpaper, then a different color bottom paint, so it would be apparent when the bottom paint is wearing. If you decide to go with black bottom paint, it will age to a dark gray color in a short time, but that does not change the effectiveness. |
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NORO LIM
Joined: 24 Apr 2008 Posts: 875 City/Region: Olympia
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crowleykirk
Joined: 05 Jul 2019 Posts: 93 City/Region: Friday Harbor
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Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:32 pm Post subject: Good posts.... Thank you... |
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We do plan on trailing a lot at some point in time. Interesting on certain paints being effected by the trailer.
I have talked to one diver I've seen in Roche but I'd assume he'd be pricey. I do plan on getting in the water some myself. I know Tamy, I will ask her as well.
Thanks for the heads up.
So,
1. Find out more info on the type of paint used. I.E. - trailering
2. Raise bottom paint possibly 4 to 6 inches above water line
3. Roughen gel coat
4. Talk to a diver
5. Buy a dry suit:-)
6. Tell First Mate it's all part of the boating experience:-)
BOAT
Break Out Another Thousand
Cheers,
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JeffK
Joined: 16 Feb 2018 Posts: 12 City/Region: RAMROD KEY
State or Province: FL
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Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2021 10:48 am Post subject: Barnacles |
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I am 76 now, but as a young man I had an underwater service business in Miami. Fouling growth is a huge problem in our very warm water. I had regular customers who had me come once a month to dive under their boats and gently remove the algae slime that would seal their anti fouling paint. Failing to do that led to barnacles and even sponges growing on the hull that made it look like a coral reef. I eventually got hydraulic brushes for use on large yachts and freighters. I don’t believe fouling growth is as serious a problem in colder water. I could see the huge difference in growth between summer and winter even in Miami. Finally, unless you are a very good diver, you don’t want to put anything solid, like a boat, between you and the surface. |
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