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thataway
Joined: 02 Nov 2003 Posts: 20829 City/Region: Pensacola
State or Province: FL
C-Dory Year: 2007
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: thataway
Photos: Thataway
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Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2021 8:43 pm Post subject: |
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There are specific lights for fishing boats: They do not include the bright lights: The place I first saw the bight lights was in fishing for squid.
From Boater Ed:
Vessels engaged in fishing (Other than trawling) display a red all-round light over a white all-round light. Additional lights that may be displayed include:
A white all-round light that points in the direction of any fishing gear extending more than 150 metres horizontally from the vessel
Red and green sidelights and a white sternlight when the vessel is underway
From Ace boater:
Vessel when engaged in trawling
A vessel when engaged in trawling, which means dragging a dredge net or other fishing apparatus through the water, shall display:
two all-round lights in a vertical line, the upper being green and the lower white. When making way through the water,
sidelights and
sternlight.
There are slight variations in larger vessels and inland waters.. _________________ Bob Austin
Thataway
Thataway (Ex Seaweed) 2007 25 C Dory May 2018 to Oct. 2021
Thisaway 2006 22' CDory November 2011 to May 2018
Caracal 18 140 Suzuki 2007 to present
Thataway TomCat 255 150 Suzukis June 2006 thru August 2011
C Pelican; 1992, 22 Cruiser, 2002 thru 2006
Frequent Sea; 2003 C D 25, 2007 thru 2009
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Home port: Pensacola FL |
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olsurfdog
Joined: 13 Nov 2009 Posts: 179 City/Region: Carmel Valley
State or Province: CA
C-Dory Year: 1989
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Summer
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Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2021 10:42 pm Post subject: |
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The fishing boats I’m referring to are not using the lights strictly for fishing. Lots of them use light (very bright ) for fishing, around here squid boats for example. The headlights are being used for steaming to or from the fishing grounds. _________________ Michael
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thataway
Joined: 02 Nov 2003 Posts: 20829 City/Region: Pensacola
State or Province: FL
C-Dory Year: 2007
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: thataway
Photos: Thataway
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Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2021 7:28 pm Post subject: |
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olsurfdog wrote: | The fishing boats I’m referring to are not using the lights strictly for fishing. Lots of them use light (very bright ) for fishing, around here squid boats for example. The headlights are being used for steaming to or from the fishing grounds. |
This issues comes up on The Hull Truth often, where a new boater wants "headlights'. They are told it is illegal, even by a current Coast Guard Safety officer, yet proceed to buy a large LED display. People still do it. It makes it almost impossible to see the navigation lights so that others can see what is going on...I don't know of any citations or litigation, but that will happen sooner or later. |
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T.R. Bauer
Joined: 17 Nov 2007 Posts: 1736 City/Region: Wasilla
State or Province: AK
C-Dory Year: 1993
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: C-Whisperer
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Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2021 10:20 pm Post subject: |
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If you can't see the channel markers because the lights are on when they should not be, I think we have a big problem. |
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hardee
Joined: 30 Oct 2006 Posts: 12633 City/Region: Sequim
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2005
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Sleepy-C
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Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2021 1:27 am Post subject: |
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Adding LED lights, (Driving, Fog and Scene lights or side lights was something I wanted to do when I first got my boat too. Still think about it.) I have seen the big fishing boats on the Oregon Coast, Puget Sound and on the BC Coast, big lights, Sodium, LED and Halogens. These are generally facing forward, with other lights down on the aft deck and I have seen some with spot lights generally aimed towards net gear. I have also talked to some of the First Nations fisherman who say their best fishing is on new moon nights, with no lights on anywhere so the fish do not see the nets. I liked the idea of the LED lights and even designed a light mount scheme for under my radar dome.
In the cabin, I changed all my cabin lights to LED with both white and red options. Both work at the dock, but the red lights in the cabin are WAY TOO BRITE to use for navigation. I found that as an option to no light, I use a headlamp with a red LED and put it on face backwards, (still bright) so I put a red bandana over it. Gives just enough light to give some peripheral vision. Also, All the lights on all the nav gear are turned down to minimum. Some don't go dark enough so they get a cover of some sort.
For the handheld, portable spot light, used to spot land marks when at anchor mostly, I have a paper towel roll cardboard that just fits into the light bezel, that helps keep light off the boat, water or anything else reflective.
I very rarely boat at night. I boat in the PNW and there are always things in the water here. Can't say I have seen many at night, but I have seen them in the daytime and I don't think they evaporate at night.
Boat safe, and stay careful. Boating at night has it's own whole new set of challenges.
Harvey
SleepyC
_________________ Though in our sleep we are not conscious of our activity or surroundings, we should not, in our wakefulness, be unconscious of our sleep. |
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thataway
Joined: 02 Nov 2003 Posts: 20829 City/Region: Pensacola
State or Province: FL
C-Dory Year: 2007
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: thataway
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Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2021 12:04 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | n the cabin, I changed all my cabin lights to LED with both white and red options. Both work at the dock, but the red lights in the cabin are WAY TOO BRITE to use for navigation. I found that as an option to no light, I use a headlamp with a red LED and put it on face backwards, (still bright) so I put a red bandana over it. Gives just enough light to give some peripheral vision. Also, All the lights on all the nav gear are turned down to minimum. Some don't go dark enough so they get a cover of some sort. |
There are several ways to dim LED's. some of my fixtures have a "bright and dim" switch on them--basically a resister in series with the LED on one of the legs to the LED.
How to determine the correct resister for LED lights.
You can put several of the lights in series, and you can use commercial dimmers.
I just buy the cheap LED's in bundles of 50 or 100. Put them in using #22 wire (solder connections). I have red LED in cabin fwd, aft, head over dinette and over galley, plus in the bunk. Onside on the side boxes and from above the door covering the entire cockpit in red light...Cheap and easy to do. Drill holes in Starboard, or wood (teak) the diameter of the light, and hold in place from the back with a dab of sealant--silicone works fine in these cases. You can "aim" these little LED's.
From Adorama (camera store) you can get a 24" x 21" red gel filter for $7. This can be put over chart ;plotters or lights to dim them further.
Lots of ways to "dim" a C Dory... |
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smckean (Tosca)
Joined: 18 Jan 2014 Posts: 975 City/Region: Guemes Island (Anacortes)
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2005
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Tosca
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Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2021 1:11 pm Post subject: |
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Here's one "trick" I learned one night when, due to unforeseen circumstances, I had to make a night crossing of Rosario Strait and on into a Anacortes harbor. I ended up using the bright lights on the shoreline to spot logs in the water.
This only works in calm water, but if you can find a shore-mounted light more or less up ahead, the very bright light (lots of them around harbors) forms a sort of "highway of light" on the water. I just steered directly "up" that lighted path. There's enough light in that narrow path to easily spot logs and such several boat lengths ahead. _________________ Sandy McKean
Purchased Tosca in 2014
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hardee
Joined: 30 Oct 2006 Posts: 12633 City/Region: Sequim
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2005
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Sleepy-C
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Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2021 1:57 pm Post subject: |
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Sandy, Yes, Good trick. Thanks.
Harvey
SleepyC
This was taken after guiding another boat into PT Boathaven one night when they had an electrical issue an lost all onboard lights and navigation electronics. Fortunately they did have a Handheld VHF with some battery left. I found them via radar, and then let them come in close enough behind me so that I could see them and they could see me. I did pass them a flashlight and had them keep that aimed at me so I could see were they were.
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cmetzenberg
Joined: 04 Jan 2014 Posts: 367 City/Region: Santa Barbara
State or Province: CA
C-Dory Year: 2007
C-Dory Model: 255 Tomcat
Vessel Name: Kanaloa
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Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2021 11:36 am Post subject: |
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red over white, fishing at night
green over white, trawling at night
white over red, pilot ahead.
red over red, your license is dead...if aground
or
red over red, the captain is dead...if not under command
from what little i remember. _________________ Conrad Metzenberg
07' Tomcat 255 "Kanaloa"
87' Boston Whaler Guardian 17 (BlackFlag, 03-14)
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hardee
Joined: 30 Oct 2006 Posts: 12633 City/Region: Sequim
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2005
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Sleepy-C
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Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2021 3:36 pm Post subject: |
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Good on Conrad, Thanks. That is going into some memory bank. Might need super glue for it to stick though
Harvey
SleepyC
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Peter & Judy
Joined: 03 Dec 2014 Posts: 552 City/Region: Olds
State or Province: AB
C-Dory Year: 2005
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Mistaya
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Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2021 8:19 pm Post subject: |
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There are advantages to boating in Northern waters in the summer. They days are so long that you hardly need a flashlight and the need to boat at night is greatly reduced. _________________ Peter & Judy Haase
Buffalo Horn Ranch
HMCB Mistaya
"Mistaya" (Grizzly Bear in Cree)
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Hunkydory
Joined: 28 Mar 2005 Posts: 2660 City/Region: Cokeville, Wyoming
State or Province: WY
C-Dory Year: 2000
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Hunkydory
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Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2021 9:50 pm Post subject: |
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Peter & Judy wrote: | There are advantages to boating in Northern waters in the summer. They days are so long that you hardly need a flashlight and the need to boat at night is greatly reduced. |
Due to the extended daylight hours you mentioned, we have only cruised a few times in the dark on our SE Alaska cruises & on a couple of those times when it was for several hours there was enough moonlight to see debris if traveling at displacement speed. Twice high winds came up while anchored when it was pitch black & those moves to a better anchorage was a bit diicy with the older gps chart that took awhile to get direction oriented & a good handheld high powered light making it doable.
Jay _________________ Jay and Jolee 2000 22 CD cruiser Hunkydory
I will not waste my days in trying to prolong them------Jack London
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Marco Flamingo
Joined: 09 Jul 2015 Posts: 1155 City/Region: Seattle
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C-Dory Year: 2004
C-Dory Model: 16 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Limpet
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Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2021 6:12 pm Post subject: |
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I've had good luck making red night lights out of LED strips with 3M sticky backing. Even the little 12" strips tend to be too bright, but they can be cut with scissors down to 3 or just one LED and still work. I just did this for a light that is always on over my DC panel if it is powered. No need to turn on a light at night to see the switches. The light is not noticeable during the day and it stays on all night when at anchor. They can also be stuck on the top edge of the aluminum window frame in the CDory. They shine up just enough light to find something in the cabin and then turn them back off.
https://www.amazon.com/XT-AUTO-Flexible-Waterproof-Underbody/dp/B01J3FC43I/ref=sr_1_4?dchild=1&keywords=red+LED+light+strips+3M&qid=1612220825&s=automotive&sr=1-4 |
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