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Discovery
Joined: 08 Dec 2003 Posts: 1245 City/Region: LOA, UTAH
State or Province: UT
C-Dory Year: 2006
C-Dory Model: 255 Tomcat
Vessel Name: Discovery
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Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2020 7:51 pm Post subject: Ford F150 3.0 Diesel |
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Has anyone bought, or test-driven the Ford F150 3.0 diesel truck? I am thinking of giving the F150 a look. It has a tow rating to up to 11,700# This would be close to the weight of the TomCat. I haven't used the TomCat in almost 2 years and keep thinking we should sell it. My F350 is a 2012, but has only 51,000 miles on it. I have offers of $33,023 cash for the '12 F350. New 2019 F150's are on sale for $45,000 and 2020's are not much more. If I can go from 2012 to 2020 for $15,000 and still have a tow vehicle for the TomCat, it's attractive.
Opinions? Do any TomCat owners want to chime in? _________________
Brent and Dixie,
1984 22' Classic sold 2003
2003 24' TomCat sold 2005
2006 TC255 Discovery Sold 2020
2006 CD 22' Angler Sold 2014
https://share.delorme.com/FBrentBetenson
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T.R. Bauer
Joined: 17 Nov 2007 Posts: 1808 City/Region: Wasilla
State or Province: AK
C-Dory Year: 1993
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: C-Whisperer
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Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2020 8:26 pm Post subject: |
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$15,000 buys a lot of gas, tires, and maintenance for the F350. And it is my understanding the 3.0 was dropped for 2020, but I don't know anything. I have found the newer F150s to tow heavy things extremely well and I have a 2015 4x4 crew cab with a 5.0. The most I have towed with it is a small skidsteer - probably 9-10k on the trailer and it was no issue at all and towed this load very well. The 3.5 ecoboost is a beast, but I know you're not looking in that direction, that is until you drive one. The 3.0 diesel has some history you should research. A nice review:
https://news.pickuptrucks.com/2018/04/2018-ford-f-150-diesel-does-it-have-enough-grunt.html |
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ken westrope
Joined: 21 Mar 2008 Posts: 31 City/Region: ephrata
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C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
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Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2020 8:55 pm Post subject: |
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I have a 3.0 f-150. Have not towed my 25 with it yet but intend to this fall. Tows my 21 ft travel trailer just fine at 14. Mph. Gets 25-27 hiway about 23 in town |
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ken westrope
Joined: 21 Mar 2008 Posts: 31 City/Region: ephrata
State or Province: WA
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C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
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Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2020 9:05 pm Post subject: |
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A little research the f150 is redesigned for 2021 and the diesel will come later in the rollout check for 2019 or 2020 |
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B~C
Joined: 31 Oct 2003 Posts: 2872 City/Region: Bend
State or Province: OR
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C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Blue~C
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Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2020 11:00 pm Post subject: |
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I was looking at the F150 diesel and was impressed with the test drive. The deal killer for me was the low payload numbers _________________ Ken
1999 22' boaterhome |
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Wandering Sagebrush
Joined: 21 Jan 2005 Posts: 2783 City/Region: Northeast Oregon
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Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2020 10:02 am Post subject: |
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Brent, After having 5 replacement turbos in my F350 (I bought one, Ford bought the other 4), I can understand the itch to replace a truck with something newer. I’m just not comfortable with a F150 pulling and stopping a load that is so close to the the tow numbers of the smaller truck.
_________________ "And in the end, it's not the years in your life that count. It's the life in your years." - Abraham Lincoln |
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Discovery
Joined: 08 Dec 2003 Posts: 1245 City/Region: LOA, UTAH
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C-Dory Model: 255 Tomcat
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Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2020 5:38 pm Post subject: |
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Wandering Sagebrush wrote: | Brent, After having 5 replacement turbos in my F350 (I bought one, Ford bought the other 4), I can understand the itch to replace a truck with something newer. I’m just not comfortable with a F150 pulling and stopping a load that is so close to the the tow numbers of the smaller truck.
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Steve, If I don't use the TomCat any more that I have in the last two years, the tow capacity doesn't matter. I still have a 24' box trailer to haul my vintage vehicles, but I think the F150 would be OK there. |
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thataway
Joined: 02 Nov 2003 Posts: 21474 City/Region: Pensacola
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Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2020 6:46 pm Post subject: |
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We test drove all of the major brands pickups In both 150 and 250 series in Nov. 2019. We ended up choosing the F 250 with heavy duty towing package (Class V 2 1/2" receiver) and the 6.7L diesel.
We didn't feel that the 10 speed transmission was necessary (there were no 2020's available locally then in the 250).
We felt the ride in the 250 and 150 were comparable.
The kicker was that the limit that most pickups put on pulling with "bumper" (vs goose neck or 5th wheel towing) is that a weight distribution hitch was required at over 5,000 lb tow weight. I realize that many most do not use the weight distribution hitch. We had gone to it with our first C Dory 25, and found it definitely made a difference. The F 250 with HD tow package allows full tow capacity without weight distribution hitch. There is minimal "sag" with the 800# of hitch weight we run on the C Dory 25.
No question that you would probably get better fuel economy with the 3 Liter. But the torque is far less, and I believe the engine would be running faster (reason for 10 speed--most of the gears are at higher end and closely spaced for fuel economy). We are averaging about 16 mpg in our "city driving", 22 mpg on the highway empty and about 12-13 on the highway towing (depends on speed). _________________ Bob Austin
Thataway
Thataway (Ex Seaweed) 2007 25 C Dory May 2018 to Oct. 2021
Thisaway 2006 22' CDory November 2011 to May 2018
Caracal 18 140 Suzuki 2007 to present
Thataway TomCat 255 150 Suzukis June 2006 thru August 2011
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T.R. Bauer
Joined: 17 Nov 2007 Posts: 1808 City/Region: Wasilla
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Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2020 12:15 am Post subject: |
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Wandering Sagebrush wrote: | Brent, After having 5 replacement turbos in my F350 (I bought one, Ford bought the other 4), I can understand the itch to replace a truck with something newer. I’m just not comfortable with a F150 pulling and stopping a load that is so close to the the tow numbers of the smaller truck.
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Is yours a 2011? |
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Wandering Sagebrush
Joined: 21 Jan 2005 Posts: 2783 City/Region: Northeast Oregon
State or Province: OR
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Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2020 9:35 am Post subject: |
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T.R. Bauer wrote: | Wandering Sagebrush wrote: | Brent, After having 5 replacement turbos in my F350 (I bought one, Ford bought the other 4), I can understand the itch to replace a truck with something newer. I’m just not comfortable with a F150 pulling and stopping a load that is so close to the the tow numbers of the smaller truck.
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Is yours a 2011? |
No, it’s a 2014. Problems started at roughly 74,000 miles. The first 4 turbos were remanufactured. The last was factory fresh. |
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T.R. Bauer
Joined: 17 Nov 2007 Posts: 1808 City/Region: Wasilla
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Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2020 9:50 am Post subject: |
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I just wondered - I heard that year has some concerns. Replacing a turbo is no fun, but happens. They sure area expensive! And like you I have had a terrible time getting good quality remanufactured/rebuilt parts the first time around. Just for example, I went through 3 NAPA starters for a 6.2 diesel in a period of about a week last winter. They weren't cheap parts - just not any good! I finally got a decent one, but I'm not really confident in it either as it doesn't spin the engine over that fast even with my fresh new batteries. |
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Discovery
Joined: 08 Dec 2003 Posts: 1245 City/Region: LOA, UTAH
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C-Dory Model: 255 Tomcat
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Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2020 10:52 am Post subject: |
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I appreciate everyone's input on the F150 with a 3.0 diesel. I'm going to keep the F350.
My 2012 F350 has only 51,00 miles and I only use it for towing, or when I need to haul something. Otherwise, it sits. We have a 2017 Chrysler 300S and a 2017 Jeep Sahara JKU that get used. With this Covid-19 we can't go anywhere anyway.
We planned to be on the TomCat in the Broughtons in BC now if the world was normal. |
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jkidd
Joined: 23 Oct 2006 Posts: 1674 City/Region: Northern, Utah
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Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2020 2:51 pm Post subject: |
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Brent bring the Tomcat up to Yellowstone next week there will be a few of us up there. _________________ Jody Kidd
KE7WNG
Northern, Utah
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Discovery
Joined: 08 Dec 2003 Posts: 1245 City/Region: LOA, UTAH
State or Province: UT
C-Dory Year: 2006
C-Dory Model: 255 Tomcat
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Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2020 3:36 pm Post subject: |
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jkidd wrote: | Brent bring the Tomcat up to Yellowstone next week there will be a few of us up there. |
Jody, I sent you an email.
Well on second look, I sent myself an email.
Can you fill in the details on Yellowstone? When, where and who? also Mussel requirements. PM me. |
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