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PostPosted: Wed Sep 18, 2019 11:24 pm    Post subject: Re: Android vs Apple for Navigation use Reply with quote

Pat Anderson wrote:
Colby, let me shortcut your research on navigation apps. The winner, hands down, is Aqua Map. Forget Navionics...


I welcome corrections, but in five minutes of research I see numerous functions/features missing in Aqua Map that are present in Navionics:

- No autorouting

- No MFD integration (waypoint/route sync w/Simrad and perhaps others)

- No AIS on Android (iOS only, and only w/Master add-on)

- No wifi connectivity on Android (iOS only, and only w/Master add-on)

- No vessel configuration for routing calculations (draft, speed, fuel burn)

There may be valid reasons for Aqua Map to be chosen depending on one's needs, but the above shortcomings ensure I'll not be giving up Navionics for it any time soon.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 18, 2019 11:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Navionics is dropping the present version of Navionics and is going with a newer version. Only for IPad.

Any comments on that? Has everybody already switched over?

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 19, 2019 12:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

journey on wrote:
Navionics is dropping the present version of Navionics and is going with a newer version. Only for IPad.

Any comments on that? Has everybody already switched over?


Interesting...that's news to me. They were still updating the Android app as recently as a month ago.

Do you have a link to an official announcement of this?

They are discontinuing products - but it's for both Android and iOS, and both platforms have replacements.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 19, 2019 1:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So far our chartplotter, Dana's I-pad and my Android tablets Navionics are identical in function. They were bought by I think Raymarine recently? If so negative changes could be coming.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 19, 2019 1:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Micahbigsur@msn.com wrote:
So far our chartplotter, Dana's I-pad and my Android tablets Navionics are identical in function. They were bought by I think Raymarine recently? If so negative changes could be coming.


Garmin bought Navionics.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 19, 2019 1:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

gstraub wrote:
I don't think it the OpenCpn development team. I think this is someone that ported over a version to Android, so the OpenCPN team doesn't really control it. Don't know all the relationships there.


The Android version is buggy as hell. Got rid of it.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 19, 2019 10:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmmm, I had a few issues, but thought they were due to my very old Android device, but maybe it wasn't all my device.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 19, 2019 10:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Garmin bought Navionics


Oh great. They bought Active Captain too, and we all know how well that worked out...
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 19, 2019 2:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's a link that mentions it: Navioncs App.

And one which discusses it in more detail: Apps being discontinued.

It looks like they have an Andriod version.

One more question: can the Andriod version use the regular SD cards one puts in the MFD display? I'd hate to buy new charts.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 19, 2019 2:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

iPad with external GPS Unit; Bad Elf. The iPad has no internal GPS. Works perfectly. Aqua Map app for charts. We use it exactly as you noted: a backup and for trip planning.

Here is an older article re apps. The spreadsheet is very useful.

https://www.waterwayguide.com/latest-news/news/8865/14-ipad-navigation-apps-evaluated?utm_source=iContact&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=News&utm_content=News+03-14-2018

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 19, 2019 3:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

localboy wrote:
iPad with external GPS Unit; Bad Elf. The iPad has no internal GPS. ...


Get an iPad with a cellular receiver. It also has a GPS chip. You don't have to use/enable the cellular part for the GPS to work.

The cellular iPad is more expensive than the non cellular one. But the Bad Elf receiver cost probably negates the difference and you don't have to deal with an external device.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 19, 2019 3:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I already had the iPad. I didn’t want to buy another one. Bad Elf was less than $100.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 19, 2019 4:35 pm    Post subject: Re: Android vs Apple for Navigation use Reply with quote

Da Nag wrote:
Pat Anderson wrote:
Colby, let me shortcut your research on navigation apps. The winner, hands down, is Aqua Map. Forget Navionics...


I welcome corrections, but in five minutes of research I see numerous functions/features missing in Aqua Map that are present in Navionics:

- No autorouting

- No MFD integration (waypoint/route sync w/Simrad and perhaps others)

- No AIS on Android (iOS only, and only w/Master add-on)

- No wifi connectivity on Android (iOS only, and only w/Master add-on)

- No vessel configuration for routing calculations (draft, speed, fuel burn)

There may be valid reasons for Aqua Map to be chosen depending on one's needs, but the above shortcomings ensure I'll not be giving up Navionics for it any time soon.


Another feature that keeps me using Navionics is the Sonar Charts Live feature. It's crowd sourced bathymetry that in my area is much more up to date than NOAA or USACE charts. Anyone that has Navionics tied in to their sonar (I do via Wifi) is contributing to the accuracy of the charts.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 21, 2019 5:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is anyone using an app called iNavX ? Especially wondering if anyone is using it on an Android device?

https://inavx.com/#about

Curious how it compares (in android) to navionics or AquaMap. There is a discount for Boat US members available for it currently.

"Members Save 10% On Charts In iNavX
iNavX is a complete handheld chartplotter that works on your cell phone or tablet. BoatUS Members receive 10% off all charts and data services in the app. iNavX is the most versatile, accurate, and convenient navigation suite available, offering multiple chart formats, as well as advanced features like weather and AIS overlays."


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 21, 2019 10:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I believe inavX is an original charting program that was set up for Apple and I haven't heard much about it for the last few years. People really liked it when it first came out.

You guys are all so good at this stuff, amazing, guess I am still stuck in the paper chart dark ages (which I love so much better than electronic!)
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