The C-Brats Forum Index
HomeForumsMy TopicsCalendarEvent SignupsMemberlistOur C-DorysThe Brat MapPhotos

Hatch Screen Velcro Detaches from Window Rim. Ideas?

 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    The C-Brats Forum Index -> Cabin, Interior
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
hardee



Joined: 30 Oct 2006
Posts: 12632
City/Region: Sequim
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2005
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Sleepy-C
Photos: SleepyC
PostPosted: Thu Jun 27, 2019 2:05 am    Post subject: Hatch Screen Velcro Detaches from Window Rim. Ideas? Reply with quote

Hatch Screen Velcro Detaches from Window Rim. Ideas?

Fellow C-BRAT friend is on his SE AK trip and Asked me to post this question for him.

So he is looking for ideas to keep the screen tight, probably because there are things like Moose sqweetoes and NO seeUmms that are pretty persistent. He is using a Thermacell and mosquito coils, but .....

the velcro is not holding.

On my boat I have switched to Gorilla Double stick tape for mounting everything anymore. It sticks and stays. Maybe they have that in Juno.

Any other ideas?

Harvey (for Andy on Osprey)
SleepyC Moon


_________________
Though in our sleep we are not conscious of our activity or surroundings, we should not, in our wakefulness, be unconscious of our sleep.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
srbaum



Joined: 30 Aug 2010
Posts: 875
City/Region: Portsmouth
State or Province: VA
C-Dory Year: 2007
C-Dory Model: 26 Venture
Vessel Name: Osprey
Photos: Osprey
PostPosted: Thu Jun 27, 2019 8:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hardee,
Velcro does not do well with extended heat and humidity that our cabins see when closed up. The glue just does not hold up to the "outdoor" environment. Practical Sailor ran a test a while back, showing that Velcro brand was not suitable for use on boats or any exterior job. The only "velcro type" product that worked was 3M brand hook and loop fasteners.

_________________
Steve Baum
Homeport of Portsmouth, VA
OSPREY (Ex Mister Sea) 2000 22 C-Dory 2010 - Sold 3/19
OSPREY (Ex ADITI) 2007 26 Cape Cruiser 2018
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
AstoriaDave



Joined: 31 Oct 2005
Posts: 994
City/Region: Astoria
State or Province: OR
PostPosted: Thu Jun 27, 2019 11:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agree with srbaum's rec:

The only "velcro type" product that worked was 3M brand hook and loop fasteners.

I've used this for mounting heavy stuff. Surface prep prior to mounting is critical. A little lacquer thinner to degrease the area, soap and water, rinse, and a light sanding with 220 grit wet or dry sandpaper. Wipe clean with water and dry the area. 3M knows adhesives.

_________________
Dave Kruger
Astoria, OR
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Micahbigsur@msn.com



Joined: 27 May 2019
Posts: 484
City/Region: Big Sur
State or Province: CA
C-Dory Year: 2003
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Sierra
Photos: Sierra
PostPosted: Thu Jun 27, 2019 11:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We have used the 3M successfully in our boats, you do need a very clean surface and we hang bags only using the widest "tape" that we can find. Finish molded surfaces work out much better than exposed laminate where we have to double up the "Velcro".
_________________
Micah Curtis and Dana, RN
2003 C-dory 25 Sierra, 200, 9.9 and 2.5 Suzukis
2012 R25 SC Sequoia (2015-2018)
1978 Folkes 38 SV Audacious (2006-2015)
Micah, KJ6GUF, Dana, KJ6GXG
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail AIM Address
localboy



Joined: 30 Sep 2006
Posts: 4656
City/Region: Lake Stevens via Honolulu
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2007
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: 'Au Kai (Ocean Traveler)
Photos: 'AU KAI
PostPosted: Thu Jun 27, 2019 2:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We use it in all our patrol vehicles. Hot, cold, wet, dry...it lasts.
_________________
"We can go over there...behind the 'little one'....."
Wife to her husband pointing @ us...from the bow of their 50-footer; Prideaux Haven 2013
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
thataway



Joined: 02 Nov 2003
Posts: 20778
City/Region: Pensacola
State or Province: FL
C-Dory Year: 2007
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: thataway
Photos: Thataway
PostPosted: Thu Jun 27, 2019 3:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We have used Wildwood Contact cement, plus the velcro--carry extra contact cement to use if it comes loose. Have to have very clean--drug store isopropyl alcohol will also help to de grease.

We had 7 years of velcro staying on both the forward deck hatch and our forward opening window--was still working when sold the boat. Velcro to the screen--we used HOT GLUE. Carry one small hot glue gun on the boat. Also great to hold pieces in place until epoxy or 5200 sets up.

_________________
Bob Austin
Thataway
Thataway (Ex Seaweed) 2007 25 C Dory May 2018 to Oct. 2021
Thisaway 2006 22' CDory November 2011 to May 2018
Caracal 18 140 Suzuki 2007 to present
Thataway TomCat 255 150 Suzukis June 2006 thru August 2011
C Pelican; 1992, 22 Cruiser, 2002 thru 2006
Frequent Sea; 2003 C D 25, 2007 thru 2009
KA6PKB
Home port: Pensacola FL
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
DayBreak



Joined: 16 Jul 2017
Posts: 838
City/Region: Monmouth, Or.
State or Province: OR
C-Dory Year: 2018
C-Dory Model: 23 Venture
Vessel Name: DayBreak
Photos: DayBreak
PostPosted: Thu Jun 27, 2019 8:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Harvey,

We bought an economy pack of 3M Command Brand picture hanging strips at Costco. The pack comes in 30 pairs. Extremely strong verticle shear strength when used in numbers. We have used them on multiple items (inside the cabin and outside in the elements) that need fastening without having to drill holes! I try to avoid drilling holes at all costs if possible. Smile

Hope it works for your needs. Gary and Colleen.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
hardee



Joined: 30 Oct 2006
Posts: 12632
City/Region: Sequim
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2005
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Sleepy-C
Photos: SleepyC
PostPosted: Fri Jun 28, 2019 1:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I first started with SleepyC I put up several things with Velcro. Most have been redone using Gorilla brand Double stick tape. It seems to be holding well. The surface prep is important.

On my hatch screen, I used velcro, and recently that is coming apart, I just recently tried the Gorilla tape on that, and then put T-Rex Duct tape on the other side of the screen to cover that side of the double stick tape. Will let you know in about 10 years how that is holding up. Wink

Thanks to all the posts. I will pass the link and info on to Andy.

I agree, no drilling holes here there and anywhere.

Thanks again.

Harvey
SleepyC Moon

Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
hardee



Joined: 30 Oct 2006
Posts: 12632
City/Region: Sequim
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2005
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Sleepy-C
Photos: SleepyC
PostPosted: Fri Jun 28, 2019 3:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just talked with Andy, and there is a Home Depot in Juneau. He asked me to say thank you to the C-Brats for their prompt and helpful replies.

What a great community this is. You all are great.

Harvey
SleepyC Moon

Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Micahbigsur@msn.com



Joined: 27 May 2019
Posts: 484
City/Region: Big Sur
State or Province: CA
C-Dory Year: 2003
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Sierra
Photos: Sierra
PostPosted: Sat Jun 29, 2019 11:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dana says she is also using industrial strength adhesive outdoor Velcro brand wherever it needs to be sewn to bags, as it is not as stiff as 3M hook and loop and that the two brands don't marry that well. (Grabs to hard).
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail AIM Address
Pandion



Joined: 02 Oct 2013
Posts: 274
City/Region: Kenmore
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2002
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Osprey
Photos: Osprey
PostPosted: Sat Jun 29, 2019 1:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for all this great advice, friends. I’m in Juneau for a few days, changing crew, cleaning the boat, restocking the larder, and hopefully posting some pictures (if I can find sufficient bandwidth).

Getting the Velcro “hook” strips attached around the inside rim of my forward hatch is today’s priority. The 3M products sound like the way to go, combined with double-sided Gorilla Tape if I can find it. First, I will thoroughly clean the area with lacquer thinner, alcohol, soap and water, and a light sanding.

Horseflies, hundreds of ‘em at my last anchorage, are the latest test of my insect countermeasures. For proper ventilation that front hatch screen is a necessity. Unfortunately, all of my screens have proven worthless against no-seeums. Hopefully there will be fewer of those nasty little bloodsuckers in Glacier Bay, my next stop.

Thanks again for everyone’s help. This site is the best!

_________________

Andy Ryan

Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website
Micahbigsur@msn.com



Joined: 27 May 2019
Posts: 484
City/Region: Big Sur
State or Province: CA
C-Dory Year: 2003
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Sierra
Photos: Sierra
PostPosted: Mon Jul 01, 2019 10:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In the "old days" we used to spray various things on our screens from bug spray to kerosene to repel no-see-ums. Dana uses "natural bug spray" made from essential oils ( hers, lemon eucalyptus) that is somewhat less obnoxious after spiders in the house and the screens on the boat that you might try on your screens. Good luck, wish I was there!
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail AIM Address
anchorout



Joined: 03 Jul 2013
Posts: 357
City/Region: Lake Charles
State or Province: LA
C-Dory Year: 1999
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: EZ DUZIT
Photos: EZ DUZIT
PostPosted: Tue Jul 02, 2019 10:09 pm    Post subject: gave up on velcro Reply with quote

I gave up on velcro. I removed the screws around the windows, one in each corner, and replaced each with snap screws. Some windows require six snaps. I put correspondent snaps in the reinforced border of the netting. Then I sewed 1/4" widths of felt between snaps, to seal out crawling insects. I used the same method around the front hatch and cabin door but had to drill the fiber glass to screw in the snaps. I use no-see-em netting. No bugs and no glue pulling loose.
_________________
I DON'T KNOW WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR - That's what makes the search so exciting!
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic    The C-Brats Forum Index -> Cabin, Interior All times are GMT - 5 Hours
Page 1 of 1

 
     Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You cannot download files in this forum



Page generation time: 0.1072s (PHP: 85% - SQL: 15%) - SQL queries: 31 - GZIP disabled - Debug on