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kennharriet



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 12, 2019 9:06 am    Post subject: Baystar Hydraulic Steering Reply with quote

I am in the process of upgrading to Baystar Hydraulic steering. I have the helm pump installed and the cylinder mechanism mounted on the Honda 75 hp. Would someone mind sending me a pic of how their tubing is routed and connected to the cylinder in the splashwell on their CD22. Just a pic from the cockpit looking at the front of the motor and splashwell would be great. Thank you, Ken
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 12, 2019 2:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Congrats on making the decision to change to hydraulic steering. You will enjoy the ease of steering, and how well you can hold a course.

Don't have any photos for you right now, will post later this week for you (my CD22 is not stored at my house).

I too have a Baystar hydraulic steering system installed in my CD22 and had same in my CD16 that I just sold. You will find it easy to install. Make sure you leave plenty of "loop" in the lines at the motor so the back and forth movement doesn't pinch the lines. I allowed 12" of diameter which works well.

For me, the harder portion of the install was how the tubes connect at the back of the helm. Get it right, and all is well. Get it wrong, and you get hydraulic fluid leakage. The trick is making sure the tubes at the helm have a nice gentle sweep into the fittings.

Good luck with your install. Photos coming as soon as I can.

cheers,

D

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kennharriet



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 12, 2019 7:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 12, 2019 9:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dgeorges,
I too would like to see those photos as upgrading to hydraulic steering is on my short list of improvements to make.
Cheers!
- Steve
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kennharriet



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 12, 2019 10:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Steve, I’ll give you a report when I get mine done. 🙂
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 14, 2019 10:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.c-brats.com/modules.php?set_albumName=C-Told-Ya-So&id=20190315_093538&op=modload&name=gallery&file=index&include=view_photo.php

Heres a pic of mine on my 86 22 angler. One of my favorite upgrades so far next to the new Honda 90
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 14, 2019 6:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kennharriet wrote:
Steve, I’ll give you a report when I get mine done. 🙂


That would be great Ken, it's an upgrade that I would like to do soon as well, but I'll let you go first and show me how it went! Smile
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 14, 2019 6:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the pic. I hate to admit it but the reason I asked is that I cut the tubing a bit short on the initial install, not realizing how much travel there is in the tubing. It would have worked but was not right so I ordered a tubing kit to redo it right. Any tricks to filling and bleeding the hydraulic fluid? Hanks again. Ken
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 14, 2019 8:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's the procedure I used for bleeding a Seastar hydraulic system. It's generic enough to use on the Baystar system.

Hydraulic Fluid for Baystar/Seastar

Boris
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 14, 2019 9:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And here I am feeling happy that the boat I'm looking at

Doesn't have hydraulic steering

Guess I really can't make an educated comment until I try it out

All I know is when those lines get old, they're impossible to patch

Pulled existing line from my Mako and took it to the hydraulic shop

New fitting didn't last but minutes
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 14, 2019 9:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

...have to say, hydraulic steering is nice

Depends on just how far the helm is from the transom

But I hear you, need to take one more addition into account on my purchase

This place really blows my mind on just how much info there is

Thanks

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 6:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Only had two steering failures

And the second one was due to my trying to repair the broken hydraulic line
in lieu of just replacing it

Luckily both episodes were not at speed in the channel

Luckily both were while idling

And I do remember just how hard the teleflex steering was on my old Proline
where the helm was forward probably 16 feet from the big six outboard

New hydraulic is awesome

Old, not so much
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 8:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Boris for the bleeding tips and fluid recommendation discussion.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 22, 2019 10:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have the Baystar hh4314-3 steering. I feel like it should take less turning. Is this so that when you're at full throttle a tiny jiggle doesn't throw you off course?

Is it adjustable? I just looked through the manual and didn't see anything.

Thanks.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 23, 2019 10:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is not adjustable, lock to lock is determined by the helm pump. A different helm pump would do it but that isn't very practical and it would be hard to find one that is compatible.
Changing the ram cylinder to a different fluid capacity/length might be easier, but these are sold as a balanced system kit so it would take a lot of research or find a really good expert to change it. Call the company maybe they have different kits?

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