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pcg



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 19, 2019 8:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

smckean (Tosca) wrote:

Pickup trucks with a load capacity greater than 1500 pounds, recreational vehicles, watercraft and trailers do not qualify for this exemption."

Oh well, it was fun to think about for a few minutes...

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thataway



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 19, 2019 8:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Under the circumstance, you are gong to have to pay some "sales" or possessory interest or "use" tax (The latter is a term a number of states used for collecting sales tax on boats sold in another state, then registered in that state ie: Florida did that for some time.

To establish the value of your boat--you should have a bill of sale, a canceled check, records of a wire transfer, or a copy of a Cashier's check--hopefully at least 2 of these. Then you may have to fine a protest. Also present a print out of what 2006 C Dory 22's sold for--For example, I would be happy to send a letter or e-mail stating what I sold a 2006 C Dory 22 in May 2018 for--The "marketplace" had records of the selling prices--and the C Dory for sale--currently would be good documents to present.

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Knipet



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 19, 2019 9:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ssobol wrote:

What you paid and what something is valued are not necessarily the same.


You might be right in the eyes of a mindless bureaucracy. But what someone pays for something in an "arm's length" transaction in a free marketplace is a very good indicator of value. What if the boat I bought was a beat-to-death piece of junk that I planned to do a lot of restoration and paying a lot of sales tax for the repairs and materials. Would it still be right to value it at $52K.


ssobol wrote:

I could sell you my car for $1, but that is not what you are going to be paying taxes on.


That wouldn't be an "arm's length" transaction in a free market. But rather an intentional attempt to circumvent the imposed taxes.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 20, 2019 12:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

C-Sharp wrote:
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ssobol wrote:

I could sell you my car for $1, but that is not what you are going to be paying taxes on.


That wouldn't be an "arm's length" transaction in a free market. But rather an intentional attempt to circumvent the imposed taxes.


Or you could someone I like or is down on their luck and I'm helping you out by selling you a car at a price you can afford.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 20, 2019 1:19 pm    Post subject: Taxes Reply with quote

You don't, "Own" anything anymore.
You just rent it from the state. Sad
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localboy



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 20, 2019 3:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Taxes Reply with quote

Capn Jack wrote:
You don't, "Own" anything anymore.
You just rent it from the state. Sad

Your statement is truly accurate. The socialists, aka the Demosocialist Party in this state do believe 100% in that political ideology and are hell bent on achieving it, one teeny, tiny, despicable step at a time. What is being discussed here is merely a symptom of the cancer...

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 20, 2019 7:16 pm    Post subject: Re: Taxes Reply with quote

localboy wrote:
Capn Jack wrote:
You don't, "Own" anything anymore.
You just rent it from the state. Sad

Your statement is truly accurate. The socialists, aka the Demosocialist Party in this state do believe 100% in that political ideology and are hell bent on achieving it, one teeny, tiny, despicable step at a time. What is being discussed here is merely a symptom of the cancer...


You probably wouldn't like living in a true 100% capitalist country. BTW, the US is not one of those.
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johnr



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 20, 2019 11:34 pm    Post subject: Re: Taxes Reply with quote

localboy wrote:


Your statement is truly accurate. The socialists, aka the Demosocialist Party in this state do believe 100% in that political ideology and are hell bent on achieving it, one teeny, tiny, despicable step at a time. What is being discussed here is merely a symptom of the cancer...


There are plenty of forums on the internet for you to post this kind stuff. Or, get yourself a Facebook page and post memes to your heart's content. Could we please have one nice place on the internet where we don't have to read this kind of junk? From any side!
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2019 4:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I always find it interesting how similar in outlook strong conservative and fundamentalist religious people are. (They vote alike too.)
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