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Wood Zeppelin
Joined: 09 Feb 2016 Posts: 299 City/Region: Seattle
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 1997
C-Dory Model: 22 Angler
Vessel Name: C-Creature
Photos: Childhood Dream
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Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2018 10:03 pm Post subject: 16 cruiser/angler Gunwales |
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Does anyone know why the 16' Angler has Gunwales that are about 3" wider than a 16' Cruiser?
Specifically I'm comparing an 88 Angler to a 97 cruiser, but poking around the photos on here is seems to be consistent regardless of the model year.. But I'm wondering if they ever made 16' Anglers with the more narrow gunwales? _________________ James Salay - Real Estate Broker / Investor, Engineer, Artist, Fisherman, Canyoneer, Outdoor Enthusiast
Current boats:
1997 22' Angler - "C-Creature"
1988 16' Angler - "E-fishn-C" (Project boat)
1997 16' Cruiser - "Wet-a-Net"
Also:
14.5' Drift Boat - "Wood Zeppelin" |
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Wandering Sagebrush
Joined: 21 Jan 2005 Posts: 2768 City/Region: Northeast Oregon
State or Province: OR
C-Dory Year: 2005
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Constant Craving
Photos: Constant Craving
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Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2018 10:48 pm Post subject: |
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A guess... to better accommodate downrigger mounts. _________________ "And in the end, it's not the years in your life that count. It's the life in your years." - Abraham Lincoln |
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MikeR
Joined: 21 Apr 2013 Posts: 474 City/Region: Mill Creek
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2016
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Photos: MikeR
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Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2018 12:04 am Post subject: |
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The current design of the 16 Angler dates back to the mid-80s, and as some here claim, the best designed C-Dory ever (And how can you argue with that C-Brat Logo in the upper left?) The Cruiser was introduced a few years later.
My guess would be that they narrowed the gunnels on the Cruiser to re-gain a wee little bit of valuable cockpit space that was lost by moving the pilot house back for the Cruiser design. Just a guess though. I really loved the wide gunnels on the 16 Angler, makes it feel super secure for a small boat and sort of like sitting on the tubes of a RIB. But hey, the Cruiser's gunnels aren't THAT much narrower, are they? Only by a couple of inches right?
But to answer your question, yes the original 16 Anglers (aka Sweet 16 in the brochures) from the early 80s had narrower gunnels, in fact they had practically no gunnels, the pilot house was mounted directly onto the rolled gunnel hull without any deck molding:
http://www.c-brats.com//files/cdory-sales-packet.pdf _________________ 22' C-Dory Cruiser (2016)
16' C-Dory Angler (1989)
10' C-Dory Row Boat (1995) |
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Wood Zeppelin
Joined: 09 Feb 2016 Posts: 299 City/Region: Seattle
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 1997
C-Dory Model: 22 Angler
Vessel Name: C-Creature
Photos: Childhood Dream
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Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2018 2:22 pm Post subject: Thanks |
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Thanks for the info. It's always cool to see the old history, going back that far... |
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Sea Wolf
Joined: 01 Nov 2003 Posts: 8650 City/Region: Redding
State or Province: CA
C-Dory Year: 1987
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Sea Wolf
Photos: Sea Wolf
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Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2018 3:55 pm Post subject: |
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In a boat the size of a 16, wide gunnels serve as a welcome seat at the ready wherever you want on either side of the boat. Not enough room in the small cockpit for any added seats rigidly mounted to the floor.
Wide gunnels could also help contain and partially hide a pair of saddle gas tanks which would keep some of the weight out of the transom and create a better balanced boat.
Also, they're great for mounting equipment like rod holders, downriggers, etc.
I like 'em!
Joe. _________________ Sea Wolf, C-Brat #31
Lake Shasta, California
"Most of my money I spent on boats and women. The rest I squandered'. " -Annonymous |
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Wood Zeppelin
Joined: 09 Feb 2016 Posts: 299 City/Region: Seattle
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 1997
C-Dory Model: 22 Angler
Vessel Name: C-Creature
Photos: Childhood Dream
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Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2018 1:40 am Post subject: |
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SeaWolf - yes. When I first noticed they were wider Gunwales on the Angler vs. Cruiser, I was a little bummed because I want more "outdoor space". But you're right, in a way they create MORE space (especially when you sit on them)! |
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Sea Wolf
Joined: 01 Nov 2003 Posts: 8650 City/Region: Redding
State or Province: CA
C-Dory Year: 1987
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Sea Wolf
Photos: Sea Wolf
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Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2018 3:09 am Post subject: |
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Wood Zeppelin wrote: | SeaWolf - yes. When I first noticed they were wider Gunwales on the Angler vs. Cruiser, I was a little bummed because I want more "outdoor space". But you're right, in a way they create MORE space (especially when you sit on them)! |
Yup!
If I had a boat that size with narrow gunnels, I'd consider making wider wooden ones for that effect.
They'd need to be fiberglassed over for weather and sitting wear durability.
The resin could be pigmented to match or compliment the boat.
Fun project!
Joe. |
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hardee
Joined: 30 Oct 2006 Posts: 12632 City/Region: Sequim
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2005
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Sleepy-C
Photos: SleepyC
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Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2018 9:58 am Post subject: |
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The gunnels on my 22 Cruiser are about 4 inches wide. I sit on them regularly. (Either on them or on a fender down inside the cockpit, and use the hull side wall for a backrest.) Just have not figured out a second use for an extra chair to carry around.
Harvey
SleepyC _________________ Though in our sleep we are not conscious of our activity or surroundings, we should not, in our wakefulness, be unconscious of our sleep. |
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Capn Jack
Joined: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 525 City/Region: La Conner
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 1988
C-Dory Model: 16 Angler
Vessel Name: Pocket Yacht
Photos: Pocket Yacht
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Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2018 7:10 pm Post subject: Wide Gunnels |
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My original 1988 has a large piece of foam under each of them. |
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