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JayMac



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PostPosted: Sat May 16, 2015 7:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Colby for your info and pics, and everybody else, I have a better grasp of the situation now....... or do I Rolling Eyes
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colbysmith



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PostPosted: Sat May 16, 2015 11:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hear you Boris. Maybe some day trailer brakes will be completely sealed and wireless! (And no connected hydraulic lines) Smile And there won't be any carburated boat motors. Mr. Green Colby
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Gene Morris



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PostPosted: Sat May 05, 2018 9:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bringing this thread back up. I need to install eoh brake actuator on Reefmadness' trailer.We plan to tow in BC next year and they are required for heavier weights. My surge actuator is near the end of it's functional life. 2 questions....

1. If I disable the surge portion of the coupler will that be satisfactory for the eoh actuator??

2. I assume installation is simple. Connect wires within my wiring harness and connect and bleed brake hydraulic lines.

3. Which model actuator have you had experience with?

Gene

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DavidM



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PostPosted: Sat May 05, 2018 10:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can put a bolt through the surge actuator to disable it, but it shouldn't be too hard to replace it with a conventional coupler.

For your other questions and a good place to buy the parts, talk to the pros at etrailer.com.

David
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PostPosted: Sat May 05, 2018 11:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wish I had EOH instead of surge, it is great for control in an emergency avoidance where you can manually activate the boat trailer without touching the truck breaks to steer. My trailer came with surge on one axle but BC requires both (all axles), so I converted to disk breaks all way around. The legal limit is 6200# total weight for surge breaks and with the 22 I'm close with a full load. I like the disk brakes, easy to rinse but you must grease the caliper slides regularly or they seize up and can`t be rinsed.

Jim.
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DayBreak



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PostPosted: Sat May 05, 2018 12:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We have EOH brakes with our Venture 23 and pull it with an F-150. We feel the cost was considerably more for the EOH on the new 2018 trailer but we find it was worth the extra expense. It is nice to lightly apply the service brake on the truck and know you are doing the same on the trailer brakes. We have found the correct adjustment setting on the brake controller where the boat and trailer braking power pretty much matches what the truck is braking for itself and so when going downhill it doesn't feel like the truck is being pushed or pulled while lightly braking and maintaining a safe and comfortable 55 m.p.h. downhill speed. If the roads are wet or icy we can adjust the braking power down a little bit on the trailer from the driver seat to help prevent fishtailing or possibly jackknifing if the road conditions were really bad.
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PostPosted: Sat May 05, 2018 3:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What are you towing it with--and what are the state laws? Some states require anything over 1000 lbs, some none:



It looks to me that N C is anything over 1000 lbs, so you must have brakes, even for the 16.

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PostPosted: Sat May 05, 2018 4:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gene, Here's a link to some photos of my conversion to EOH brakes on the TC trailer. I replaced the coupler and sold the surge unit to another Brat. [url] http://www.c-brats.com/modules.php?set_albumName=album482&op=modload&name=gallery&file=index&include=view_album.php [/url]
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ssobol



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PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2018 1:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In some states if your trailer has brakes you are also required to have an annual trailer safety inspection. For instance, VA requires this.
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Anita Marie



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PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2018 8:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gene, I retrofitted to EOH. The problem you may have keeping the old coupler is the room on the trailer for the hydraulic unit. I did not have enough room between the old coupler and the king post. I had to put on a new coupler to get the room so I could get it to fit.
I also had to move the jack back to make enough room for the unit. The unit I have in a Hydrastar (Hydrastarusa.com). It is straight forward wiring. You will also need a breakaway switch.


Fred

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colbysmith



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PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2018 9:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm surprised you have your EOH pump on the tongue. Many I know have placed it higher, just to be sure it doesn't get dunked accidently!
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Anita Marie



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PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2018 10:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am not sure I could get it wet. The water would be over the bumper.
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