Another competitor for the C Dory 22.

[Robert H. Wilkinson]

[journey on]

I'm confused. Bob's post indicated that this was a new model. However reading the Rosborough web page says the boat was released in 1995. If that's true, it's been around for over 20 years.

If the boat is 20 years old, it becomes an East vs West deal. Take your pick. And look at the Ranger.

Just a random thought: if you step out of those side doors you better have something to step on to, like the dock. There can't be much of a ledge there.

Boris

[Robert H. Wilkinson]

[South of Heaven]

[journey on]

Bob,

So this boat was introduced in '95 by Roseborough, built until ?, the molds sold to Eastern and now reintroduced as the upgraded Roseborugh 22 by Eastern? I do note that there's a Roseborough web page touting the 246 and 22. I assume that Eastern put it up.

Sounds like the saga of the C-Dory line.

If there is no, or very little boat when you step out of the side door, how do you get the the bow and anchor? I will say when we went through the Trent Severn locks with our C-Dory, Judy was at the front and I was at the rear and some locks required that. Singlehanding must be difficult.

Boris

[ken35216]

[thataway]

There are several C Dorys, as well as a number of boats who have done the Loop single handed--including sailboats. I find that I can reach the lock lines/bollards out the window of any of the c Dory's--using a boat hook or other devices..

As for the Rosborough recreational line--they are now owned/built by Eastern as the Rosborough USA line. The Cape Breton was actually introduced in 1995, on the Sisu hull. Relatively few were built, but they did have a rudimentary pilot house, Marc or others may have more information. But the wheelhouse was shorter. The sliding doors were already there, as was a solid aft bulkhead, which may have distinguished them from the lobster boat, "wheel house". There were a number of changes done this last fall to make the modern version.

[journey on]

H'm, tying up to a dock or lock bollard or a vertical cable out of a C-Dory window fascinates me. I guess I've been spoiled by Judy, who either brings the boat in or ties it up (we share) and also tells me what I'm doing wrong.

Tell me if the following singlehanded process is wrong:

1. bring the boat up next to the bollard or vertical cable provided in some locks.
2. stop the way to a point where you can do the following.
3. lean out the window, grab a boat hook (tied off outside.) Tying a boat hook outside and having it free to use must be tricky.
4. hook a line over the dock cleat or bollard or grab the cable with the hook.
5. tie off the line amidships or pass a line around the cable. Do 3, 4 and 5 quickly enough so that the wind/current don't blow the boat away.
6. exit the cabin and tie off the aft cleat to something.
7. when leaving untie the boat.

When I make the list, it seems so simple, when I practice it things go awry. I would assume you'd learn quickly if you had to.

Boris

[ken35216]

[potter water]

The cabin is way too disproportionate to the rest of the boat. It looks like someone got a hull with pleasing lines, then clunked a fiberglass box that is too boxy and big onto the hull. Tiny area in the cockpit, so nothing to be gained there over a Dory 22. I would like to see the 22 with the armstrong bracket for the OB and open up the cockpit space though.

The sliding side doors serve no great function in my opinion. I'm pretty sure that I'd be among the first to climb out the door and go headfirst into the water. The sliding glass windows on the Dory 22 allow access for mid boat fenders and lines by simply reaching out of the window.

There is much that C-Dory can do to improve the 22 cruiser without great cost and easily out compete these others looking at the pocket cruiser market.

If someone can come out with a new 22 design that sells for 55 grand with engine and trailer, there is a latent market out there that would overwhelm their ability to produce. A 22 foot boat with cabin for close to 100 grand really shuts the door on the market. I know, I know, they are custom built largely and labor is big and profits are small.

I am again looking for a used C-Dory 22 after kicking myself many times for having sold "STILL CRAZY." Both the reference boat and a new Dory 22 are wayyyyyy out of reach for a new boat for me. Used is my shopping place.

[ssobol]

[BillE]

Here are a bunch of photos and other info:

https://www.rosboroughboatsusa.com/22-sisu

I've always admired the Sisu hull form, would have to see the cabin version in person.

[san juanderer]

Having owned the Rf246, I will attest that the side sliding doors are a very handy feature. Ventilation, managing the mid ship cleat line, and access on to the side deck if needed. And mine never leaked water. The side deck and the cabin top rail height made side access very nice. And the RF246, because of the keel was VERY stable at rest. Did not heel over at rest. All boats are compromises .

[Wefings]

Bill , we will have the boat at Orange Beach as well as Panama City the first weekend of March . Then Sarasota in April. But best way to see is at the dealership where you can compare more Pilothouse boats than anywhere else I know of in one place at one time.

A few important details ;
For all you "disproportionate cabin" folks, the cockpit is larger than the C Dory 22, as is the vee berth.
For the "Dinette" folks , we will have a Lagun Table that will move from the cabin to the cockpit [on this mount] to create a flexible dining option , like the 246 Halifax model. That's a big selling point .
Ill report handling characteristics when we power her .
She arrived yesterday and we will be giving her the "Wefings Touch" in the next few weeks .

This is a new cabin / roof configuration and this is the very first one . It built on a proven hull design that has a very good "East Coast" pedigree. Its also 4 inces wider than a 22 C Dory and could be configured for twins . We can do a full armstrong with kicker bracket and single , or twins . I would think twin 70 Yamahas would be a good setup. If asked ,I would recommend a single for cost, simplicity and performace . A dual pupose kicker/dinghy motor addition just makes sense .
Let the discussions continue !


Marc

[forrest]