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localboy
Joined: 30 Sep 2006 Posts: 4656 City/Region: Lake Stevens via Honolulu
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2007
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: 'Au Kai (Ocean Traveler)
Photos: 'AU KAI
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Pacificcoast101
Joined: 29 Sep 2007 Posts: 718 City/Region: Torrance
State or Province: CA
C-Dory Year: 2008
C-Dory Model: 255 Tomcat
Vessel Name: No Pressure
Photos: No Pressure
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localboy
Joined: 30 Sep 2006 Posts: 4656 City/Region: Lake Stevens via Honolulu
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2007
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: 'Au Kai (Ocean Traveler)
Photos: 'AU KAI
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Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2017 3:38 pm Post subject: |
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My wife and I say: " some people should not breed...or vote." |
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Montana Kev
Joined: 25 May 2007 Posts: 318 City/Region: Bozeman/Yellowstone
State or Province: MT
C-Dory Year: 2006
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Grace
Photos: Grace
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Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2017 10:41 pm Post subject: |
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Sounds like they were lucky to have been spotted and rescued. I wonder what type of gear and experience they have. There are hard core paddlers that would use a day like that for training and testing gear. Race to Alaska types. We have friends that kayak 100 mile days, Catalina Island and back in a day. They feel as safe in their kayak as we do in our C-Dory. |
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Aurelia
Joined: 21 Aug 2009 Posts: 2331 City/Region: Gig Harbor
State or Province: WA
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Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2017 11:12 pm Post subject: |
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You can add me to that list of folks more comfortable in my kayak than in our boat when conditions get nasty. A smart rough water paddler will at least practice next to a sandy windward shore so they are blown into shore if they capsize and fail to roll correctly. We have a perfect shore next to where we live and see kayakers out practicing in conditions like we had yesterday so long as the tide leaves enough beach exposed.
Others simply think they can handle it and they are often wrong.
The really amazing thing is how often people make very dangerous decisions and still make it though.
Greg _________________ Greg, Cindie & Aven
Gig Harbor
Aurelia - 25 Cruiser sold 2012
Ari - 19 Cruiser sold 2023
currently exploring with "Lia", 17 ft Bullfrog Supersport Pilothouse |
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AstoriaDave
Joined: 31 Oct 2005 Posts: 994 City/Region: Astoria
State or Province: OR
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Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2017 12:15 am Post subject: |
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Greg's endorsement of a properly outfitted sea kayak, handled by a competent paddler rocks my boat. Trouble is, sea kayaks look easy to paddle, but in the hands of a novice, they are an invitation to disaster. They demand constant awareness and well honed bracing skills to be safe in conditions like those pictured in the rescue photo.
A poor paddler is just as clueless as a poor skipper. _________________ Dave Kruger
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starcrafttom
Joined: 07 Nov 2003 Posts: 7892 City/Region: marysville
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 1984
C-Dory Model: 27 Cruiser
Vessel Name: to be decided later
Photos: Susan E
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Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2017 1:31 am Post subject: |
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So I was parked next to the George town road bridge above Chilli bar on the American River ( south fork) in the late 90's. We have just had a big snow followed by a pineapple express and the river is flowing 30 ft deep crashing into the road way. It was the color of coffee with cream and full of 100 ft pine trees. The roar of the river was deafening but at the same time drowned out by the sound of a million car size boulder slowly headed down river. You could hear it a mile up the canyon as you drove down.
And that is when i saw stupid and his brother running down the side of the road with kayaks in hand trying to get in the water as a cops was screaming at them to stop. Poor cop had to pull a gun on one as he was dragging the other moron away from the water. Should have let them both go before they breed with anyone. _________________ Thomas J Elliott
http://tomsfishinggear.blogspot.com/ |
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jbdba01
Joined: 18 Nov 2014 Posts: 172
State or Province: FL
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Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2017 5:36 am Post subject: |
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Happened over here several years ago - except the guy died. My buddies saw them heading out. I went kayaking that day, but I had a simple rule - in strong winds if I can't stand up in it to walk home don't go there. We normally don't fish in sea kayaks. Just the Tupperware stuff.
Details below
http://www.theledger.com/news/20110123/lakeland-man-dies-kayaking-in-tampa-bay
I've had some great fishing in crazy winds - you just have to paddle/walk into the winds first. Once in a while you'll get those magic winds where you find yourself paddling into the winds both ways. If it blows too hard, I get out and walk it in. I would say over 15 it gets to be a headache.
Need to know your limitations, your boat, and be prepared...and yes water temps get cold in Tampa - people die of hypothermia about 1-2 times a year. Doesn't take too much. Seems it's the newbies/tourist who get themselves into trouble. Then again we have about that many PWC and lightning deaths too...mostly tourist. |
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thataway
Joined: 02 Nov 2003 Posts: 20858 City/Region: Pensacola
State or Province: FL
C-Dory Year: 2007
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: thataway
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Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2017 8:54 am Post subject: |
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All the more reason, if the kayaker is foolish enough to go out in wind or seas, to take a waterproof VHF radio, and be able to call for help. Better to have the judgement to not go. _________________ Bob Austin
Thataway
Thataway (Ex Seaweed) 2007 25 C Dory May 2018 to Oct. 2021
Thisaway 2006 22' CDory November 2011 to May 2018
Caracal 18 140 Suzuki 2007 to present
Thataway TomCat 255 150 Suzukis June 2006 thru August 2011
C Pelican; 1992, 22 Cruiser, 2002 thru 2006
Frequent Sea; 2003 C D 25, 2007 thru 2009
KA6PKB
Home port: Pensacola FL |
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AstoriaDave
Joined: 31 Oct 2005 Posts: 994 City/Region: Astoria
State or Province: OR
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Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2017 11:45 am Post subject: |
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thataway wrote: | All the more reason, if the kayaker is foolish enough to go out in wind or seas, to take a waterproof VHF radio, and be able to call for help. Better to have the judgement to not go. | And how does one develop judgment? By flirting with the edge of the envelope. This tale is on me ... and an illustration of why I do not point fingers at others out learning where the edge of their envelope is. Never needed a rescue ... but I have been close. This was one of those times.
http://www.nwkayaking.net/?page_id=365 |
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localboy
Joined: 30 Sep 2006 Posts: 4656 City/Region: Lake Stevens via Honolulu
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2007
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: 'Au Kai (Ocean Traveler)
Photos: 'AU KAI
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Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2017 11:56 am Post subject: |
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Quote: | And how does one develop judgment? |
How about what is sorely lacking in modern day America: COMMON SENSE. |
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AstoriaDave
Joined: 31 Oct 2005 Posts: 994 City/Region: Astoria
State or Province: OR
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Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2017 12:10 pm Post subject: |
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localboy wrote: | Quote: | And how does one develop judgment? |
How about what is sorely lacking in modern day America: COMMON SENSE. | No quarrel here. That Darwin thing, about survival ... applies here, for sure. There is a huge difference between flirting with the edge of one's competence and plunging headlong into an obvious maelstrom. |
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RobLL
Joined: 05 Aug 2014 Posts: 421 City/Region: Bremerton
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2007
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
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Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2017 2:57 pm Post subject: |
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I have had about zero luck explaining to acquaintances and friends that when we have the worst storm forecast in ten years, say, that the proper preparation is to batten down house, yard, boat etc. and stay home. |
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starcrafttom
Joined: 07 Nov 2003 Posts: 7892 City/Region: marysville
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 1984
C-Dory Model: 27 Cruiser
Vessel Name: to be decided later
Photos: Susan E
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Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2017 3:27 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | And how does one develop judgment? |
two ways
1) peep on a electric fence
2) watch someone peep on a electric fence.
I like two, but have been guilty of one. |
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Larry Q
Joined: 17 Mar 2006 Posts: 231 City/Region: Rochester, Wa
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2006
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: C-ya
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Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2017 5:35 pm Post subject: |
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Tom, That explains sooo much about you. |
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