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thataway



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2017 11:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good to hear.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 05, 2017 10:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Harald, thank you for sharing your report from the factory, just as you said you would. That's really interesting information, most of which I was unaware. I'd say your two cents worth is easily worth 50 times that sum.
Thanks again!
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 05, 2017 11:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the report Harold, and much appreciate the detail. It sounds good from them. Growing and expanding are good, just hate to see them kick some really good people to the curb just because they think someone else will floor a few more boats. Specifically, Marc at Wefings has been a serious and loyal supporter of both CBRATs and the C-Dory brand, and deserves some reciprical loyality.

JMO

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 06, 2017 7:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cfoster wrote:
Okay that explains Three Rivers but why have they dumped Wefings and Mobile East Marine? Anybody have a theory on that?

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 06, 2017 8:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had nothing but great service from NMI on my new build. Several changes in mid-production that was handled immediately.

Gene and Carrie from Mobile East are retiring and I'd assume thats the reason they will no longer be selling C-Doris. It's up to the company to decide who they allow to sell their products. And if NMI wants to switch dealers in a certain area then they must think the new dealer will sell more boats or give better service which will sell more boats. We want them to sell more boats.

I an EXTREMELY glad NMI is making new C-Dories as I love my new C-Dory and could not be happier with the build quality (and I owned an '07). I looked and looked and I did not want to buy a used one.

They is something really special about getting a brand new boat outfitted EXACTLY the way you want it. For you used boat buyers be nice to NMI as you'll want one of their later model ones in a few years.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 06, 2017 8:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ken35216 wrote:
I had nothing but great service from NMI on my new build. Several changes in mid-production that was handled immediately.

I an EXTREMELY glad NMI is making new C-Dories as I love my new C-Dory and could not be happier with the build quality (and I owned an '07). I looked and looked and I did not want to buy a used one.

There is something really special about getting a brand new boat outfitted EXACTLY the way you want it. For you used boat buyers be nice to NMI as you'll want one of their later model ones in a few years.


Ken,

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 06, 2017 9:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ken35216 wrote:
Cfoster wrote:
Okay that explains Three Rivers but why have they dumped Wefings and Mobile East Marine? Anybody have a theory on that?

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My guess, they (NMI) wanted him to floor, have on hand, more boats than he could comfortably handle, (same situation that happened with Les at EQ Marine), and he opted out too.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 15, 2021 4:38 pm    Post subject: Re: C Dory cancelling dealers Reply with quote

Cfoster wrote:
Does anyone what is going on with C-Dory terminating dealers and adding a new one. Wefings and Mobile East Marine are no longer listed as dealers and a new one, Three Rivers Marine, has been appointed in Crystal River, FL. Seems like they terminated two very popular long term dealers to try their luck with an unknown.



Yes, this is trure for 2 reasons. The company that now owns c Dory has made the boats very expensive and they are requiring dealers to maintain a high volume of stock. Wefings wasn’t willing to do that, Three Rivers was.

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PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2021 7:49 pm    Post subject: dealers Reply with quote

Lack of offering floor plans to dealers is an indication of a business that is having cash flow problems (most of the time).

Of all the boats we have owned, only 3 were brand new. Used boats certainly represent an opportunity to own a great boat at a value price. Use it and the recover most, some times more of your purchase price.

I'm thankful that there are boater who purchase new boats so they become available on the used market.

Marc is a stand up guy who worked hard to support C-Dory and this community.

This forum is an invaluable resource for C-Dory owners.

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PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2021 10:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

All new boats are "very expensive"--I suspect that the C Dory is the bargain of the cruising world in new boat. I don't know if C Dory can old the line on current production costs for boats to be delivered next year.

In the last year polyester resin products have gone up over 50 cents a pound. This is a significant increase and there is no evidence it will come down--and may continue to climb. Resin goes up. Probably fiberglass cloth will increase, and labor will increase as inflation takes hold.

Result--today's prices look cheap in comparison to what we will see next year.

Also I suspect that the cost of prime US manufactured fiberglass cloth will go up also. Chinese cloth is often a bit inferior.

There have been shortages of materials also.

Outboard motors, especially in the larger sizes 90 hp and above are in short supply currently. Scarce supply often leads to increased prices.
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PostPosted: Fri May 21, 2021 11:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thataway wrote:
All new boats are "very expensive"--I suspect that the C Dory is the bargain of the cruising world in new boat. I don't know if C Dory can old the line on current production costs for boats to be delivered next year.

In the last year polyester resin products have gone up over 50 cents a pound. This is a significant increase and there is no evidence it will come down--and may continue to climb. Resin goes up. Probably fiberglass cloth will increase, and labor will increase as inflation takes hold.

Result--today's prices look cheap in comparison to what we will see next year.

Also I suspect that the cost of prime US manufactured fiberglass cloth will go up also. Chinese cloth is often a bit inferior.

There have been shortages of materials also.

Outboard motors, especially in the larger sizes 90 hp and above are in short supply currently. Scarce supply often leads to increased prices.


A new C Dory 22 Cruiser is $85,000. I don’t care what the reason is, that’s insane. When you look at the late model used boat market for what you can get for $85k, if you buy a new 22 cruiser then you deserve what you get. I’ve owned a 22 Cruiser for 13 years. I wouldn’t buy a new one today.
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PostPosted: Sat May 22, 2021 9:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's all relative. For the same amount of money you could buy 3 Gold Wing Touring motorcycles, or one of the cheaper BMW cars or 1 fully loaded Chevy pickup. Very Happy

The house my parents bought for $15K in 1955 just popped up on Zillo for $485K. 3 bedroom, one bath, 1,025 square feet.


The boats have to bring enough to keep the business going, when costs of material and labor rise, so does the selling price.

I'm pretty sure the people who bought Emma Mae thought at the time it was a lot of money for the boat in 2005. Who wouldn't want to be able to buy a 2021 for that same price?
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