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thataway



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2017 10:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Marc said he never found a benefit for a 4 blade in the Tom Cat--We felt that the 4 blades did very well for our boat. Plus, many of the other cats find they do better with 4 blades. Better stern lift, good power out of the "hole". My (and most of the other) Caracal cats use four blades. (somewhat different reason, because it is a single engine cat, and ventilation is an issue).

I agree the dark blue is beautiful. Problem is long term maintenance of the dark blue, unless you store it out of the UV- (enclosed boat lift, boat house, or garage).

As far as the bracket--Some of the 30 foot Tom Cats (Chilkats by Black Feather Marine)- used "big foot" kickers for slow speed trolling--as I recollect 8 to 9 hp--and that was an extremely good combination. Fantastic mileage, with the really slow speed needed.

I made a Starboard bracket, and used my 3.5 hp Merc two stroke dinghy motor as a "kicker" for fun. It worked OK. Probably still with the boat--where ever it is. I would not put more than 3.5 hp on it. The bracket can take the down force, but even with fitted bolts, it is a bit sloppy. There is one other plus on the 30 foot Tom Cats, and that is the bridge deck clearance is adequate, and does not drag at low speeds as the Tom Cat 255 does.

The motors will come all of the way out of the water if the stops are properly set up for the trailering position.

I would expect a light Tom Cat (not sure what the weight of the current boats is) to be able to get 50 mph with the 175's.

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BTDT



Joined: 07 Jan 2011
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City/Region: Grand Lake Oklahoma
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2017 9:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Marc,

What are your performance numbers for the props you have tried?

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Wefings
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2017 3:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brent ,I get the big foot question now . Ill have to see what the factory that makes the hatches rates their hatches at weight wise . I have had the boat at a number of shows and many big feet have traversed the transom , no one has collapsed it yet .

Bob;
I always strive for bow lift on a catamaran as the stern is somewhat "self lifting" Powertech makes both 3 and 4 blade props with the same cupping and blade shapes .

So far with a bit too little pitch on a trial set [over redline] we hit 48 MPH . The last set of 23 Pitch [Powertech PTCs] props hit 6100 at 47ish. These are highly cupped . Next up will be a more standard 23 pitch prop.
Marc

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2017 8:37 pm    Post subject: TC255 Reply with quote

I think it's fair to say, a beautiful and well-made premium boat (and trailer) by all accounts, and a dedicated, honest and hard-working dealer in Marc!

I agree with Bob that many Rangers and premium boats sport the 'flag blue' hull and that Florida UV can damage it, but my boat had much more than avg UV damage; the difference is how close you are to see it in cream rather than a dark color (red being worst).

I'm curious about Bob's statement that getting props out of the water is a matter of 'stops adjustment', on my Yamaha it seems more a matter of which hole the motor is mounted (the lower, the more 'bulb' will be submerged with full trailer position). I'm at the second to lowest hole (like Marc has these Suzuki 175's), and though full tilt up gets the bulb out of the water, if I use the support bracket and retract the ram to decrease ram stress (as Bob taught me to do), the bottom bulb will be submerged an inch or two. Easy to clean that little growth.

At 4 years after purchase, I'm still experimenting with props and have 4 blade 17 pitch aluminum SOLAS on 'em now, top speed of 36 MPH in Heavy Cruise mode with bimini and non-pristine bottompaint is OK with me @ 6,000 RPM. All that experimenting is half the fun and challenge of boating.

John, the Suzuki's have different gear ratios and performance parameters and are not comparable to your Hondas or my Yamahas.

Marc disagrees with me on this issue, but I think any manufacturer who builds great outboards should also build great pianos and piccolos, or at least great jet aircraft and subway cars and bowling balls ( Yamaha, Honda, Bombardier/Evinrude, Brunswick/Mercury, hee, hee).

Happy boating!
John

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2017 10:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Suzuki wins on the 2 wheel racetrack . WOW Also builds a Sh*t ton of cars and bikes in India.
And has an awesome violin method .
And makes a fantastic fish

Whats wrong with that ?

Oh yeah I like Yamaha s and Honda's too..........
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2017 9:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

LOL

The fish link goes to music link. Can you update it?

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2017 1:23 pm    Post subject: Re: TC255 Reply with quote

gulfcoast john wrote:


John, the Suzuki's have different gear ratios and performance parameters and are not comparable to your Hondas or my Yamahas.

John


I was thinking more in the line of convincing my better half that 'we' need a new boat Laughing

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2017 2:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SUZUKI FISH
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2017 4:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



Matches the hull color.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2017 6:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

that is one fine looking TC.. a piece of art.
For what it's worth, the kid and have fished the Columbia for years and always scratched up a few fish. After replacing the Hondas with the newer Suzukis we've been knocking the sap out the salmon Smile

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