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ssobol
Joined: 27 Oct 2012 Posts: 3372 City/Region: SW Michigan
State or Province: MI
C-Dory Year: 2008
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: SoBELLE
Photos: SoBelle
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Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2017 5:03 pm Post subject: |
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Pat Anderson wrote: | ssobol wrote: | If you are using a USB monitor anyway, I think a micro PC might be a better choice than a laptop. It would take up much less space.
Granted a micro PC is probably about double what you paid for the laptop. |
You are probably correct, but it is the laptop for now! If/when the C-80 gets replaced completely with the PC based system, including all the required interfaces for radar, AIS, depth sounder and multiplexer, I will no doubt go with a micro PC. What kind would you use? |
No doubt that by the time you get around to it, whatever is available today will be replaced by something different. I would wait to consider the actual unit until you are actually ready to do something. |
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Pat Anderson
Joined: 02 Nov 2003 Posts: 8553 City/Region: Birch Bay, WA
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2005
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Daydream
Photos: Daydream and Crabby Lou
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Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2017 12:19 pm Post subject: |
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[quote="ssobol"][quote="Pat Anderson"] ssobol wrote: | If you are using a USB monitor anyway, I think a micro PC might be a better choice than a laptop. It would take up much less space.
Granted a micro PC is probably about double what you paid for the laptop. |
I am thinking I could buy this Quantum Bytes mini computer, $170, install CE, and drop it in place of the laptop, 32 GB on-board storage, and I could place the charts on an SD card. I could do this now, and have redundancy with the laptop as a backup. Bad idea? _________________
DAYDREAM - CD25 Cruiser
CRABBY LOU - CD16 Angler (sold 2020)
Pat & Patty Anderson, C-Brat #62!
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Captains Cat
Joined: 03 Nov 2003 Posts: 7313 City/Region: Cod Creek>Potomac River>Chesapeake Bay
State or Province: VA
C-Dory Year: 2005
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Captain's Choice II
Photos: Captain's Cat
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Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2017 3:29 pm Post subject: |
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Pat, Active Captain has very current updates from boats headed down the ICW for the winter. If it's integrated with your chart plotter, it will be very helpful. Their FB page also has very current info, before it even gets in AC.
Charlie _________________ CHARLIE and PENNY CBRAT #100
Captain's Cat II 2005 22 Cruiser
Thataway (2006 TC255 - Sold Aug 2013)
Captain's Cat (2006 TC255 - Sold January 2012)
Captain's Kitten (1995 CD 16 Angler- Sold June 2010)
Captain's Choice (1994 CD 22 Cruiser- Sold Jun 2007)
Potomac River/Chesapeake Bay
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thataway
Joined: 02 Nov 2003 Posts: 20808 City/Region: Pensacola
State or Province: FL
C-Dory Year: 2007
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: thataway
Photos: Thataway
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Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2017 4:18 pm Post subject: |
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Pat, I would wonder how vibration, high humidity, and salt air would affect the mini computer:?
So far (computers aboard since 1982) I have found laptops did better in these conditions. _________________ Bob Austin
Thataway
Thataway (Ex Seaweed) 2007 25 C Dory May 2018 to Oct. 2021
Thisaway 2006 22' CDory November 2011 to May 2018
Caracal 18 140 Suzuki 2007 to present
Thataway TomCat 255 150 Suzukis June 2006 thru August 2011
C Pelican; 1992, 22 Cruiser, 2002 thru 2006
Frequent Sea; 2003 C D 25, 2007 thru 2009
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Pat Anderson
Joined: 02 Nov 2003 Posts: 8553 City/Region: Birch Bay, WA
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2005
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Daydream
Photos: Daydream and Crabby Lou
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Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2017 8:46 pm Post subject: |
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Captains Cat wrote: | Pat, Active Captain has very current updates from boats headed down the ICW for the winter. If it's integrated with your chart plotter, it will be very helpful. Their FB page also has very current info, before it even gets in AC.
Charlie |
Charlie, Active Capatin is integraged into both Coastal Explorer running on my PC nav system (now the primary system) and on Navimatics on my iPad. I spend a fair amount of time talking about it in the third installment of three on my blog Daydream's Loop. You might find it an interesting read! |
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ssobol
Joined: 27 Oct 2012 Posts: 3372 City/Region: SW Michigan
State or Province: MI
C-Dory Year: 2008
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: SoBELLE
Photos: SoBelle
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Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2017 11:04 am Post subject: |
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thataway wrote: | Pat, I would wonder how vibration, high humidity, and salt air would affect the mini computer:?
So far (computers aboard since 1982) I have found laptops did better in these conditions. |
Some of the newer micro computers are pretty much sealed units, no fans, just some connector ports. With a solid state drive I don't see how they would be any less robust than a laptop. The fact that you would have some separate components (monitor, keyboard) might make them more long lived because if one part fails it can be replaced more easily. |
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thataway
Joined: 02 Nov 2003 Posts: 20808 City/Region: Pensacola
State or Province: FL
C-Dory Year: 2007
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: thataway
Photos: Thataway
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Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2017 1:21 pm Post subject: |
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ssobol wrote: |
Some of the newer micro computers are pretty much sealed units, no fans, just some connector ports. With a solid state drive I don't see how they would be any less robust than a laptop. The fact that you would have some separate components (monitor, keyboard) might make them more long lived because if one part fails it can be replaced more easily. |
Hard to know. Just something to think about. These are not potted, and thus not sealed up to the standards of some marine electronics.
There is one teardown video of a unit which has very close to the same specs, is built in a cylinder, and does have a mini fan. (but no apparent vents). That unit appeared to have somewhere about 50 soldered connectors, and several ribbon cables on its chassis--all of which can be points of corrosion. On the other hand, it is cheap, and could be kept in a container with a moisture absorber until ready to use.
One friend had been using laptops, but decided she wanted a big computer built in--the corrosion came on fairly fast, even though the boat was kept 99% of the time in its slip. Some of the megayachts use very specially built computers, and other folks have just used a quality computer. I know of some who have sprayed the boards with a very light coat of corrosion inhibiting material.
If I was doing the trip--and wanted a back up--I might consider the mini. But I don't use my computer as primary navigation tool. Instead use specific marine chart plotters, MFD/Radar/Sonar and the laptop for other purposes. |
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Discovery
Joined: 08 Dec 2003 Posts: 1239 City/Region: LOA, UTAH
State or Province: UT
C-Dory Year: 2006
C-Dory Model: 255 Tomcat
Vessel Name: Discovery
Photos: Discovery
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Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2017 6:22 pm Post subject: |
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Pat, This is probably the storage yard I remembered from the 2006 trip.
http://www.gladesboatstorage.com/rates.htm
It looks like they store about anything. $2.50/ft per month, for trailer at 30'= $75.00 plus $25/ month for a truck, so about $100/month for truck and trailer. _________________
Brent and Dixie,
1984 22' Classic sold 2003
2003 24' TomCat sold 2005
2006 TC255 Discovery Sold 2020
2006 CD 22' Angler Sold 2014
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Pat Anderson
Joined: 02 Nov 2003 Posts: 8553 City/Region: Birch Bay, WA
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2005
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Daydream
Photos: Daydream and Crabby Lou
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Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2017 9:16 pm Post subject: |
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Discovery wrote: | Pat, This is probably the storage yard I remembered from the 2006 trip.
http://www.gladesboatstorage.com/rates.htm
It looks like they store about anything. $2.50/ft per month, for trailer at 30'= $75.00 plus $25/ month for a truck, so about $100/month for truck and trailer. |
Looks like we have a winner in River Forest Marina in La Belle, $75 a month for truck and trailer. There is a boat ramp about a mile away. |
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Pat Anderson
Joined: 02 Nov 2003 Posts: 8553 City/Region: Birch Bay, WA
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2005
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Daydream
Photos: Daydream and Crabby Lou
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Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2017 6:30 pm Post subject: |
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Here is installment 4 of our Great Loop blog, Around the Loop in 25 Feet! Love to hear your feedback! |
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ken35216
Joined: 12 Mar 2013 Posts: 569 City/Region: Destin, Florida
State or Province: FL
C-Dory Year: 2017
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Lady Onyx
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Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2017 6:45 pm Post subject: |
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I like paper charts. I'm studying them/planning a trip on them as I type. I'm also looking at the charts on the computer and active captain. |
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thataway
Joined: 02 Nov 2003 Posts: 20808 City/Region: Pensacola
State or Province: FL
C-Dory Year: 2007
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: thataway
Photos: Thataway
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Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2017 6:56 pm Post subject: |
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Nice installment, and shows your excellent logic well!
I thought about your last comment about TV--and thought "weather and local news"--we have a 11" 12 volt TV we occasionally use, with a small rabbit ears antenna, which we occasionally use--but you all have the computers--and I phones so that probably does better for those.
We also really enjoy satellite radio--and that is one of our "essentials" for the boat...especially for a long trip. |
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ken35216
Joined: 12 Mar 2013 Posts: 569 City/Region: Destin, Florida
State or Province: FL
C-Dory Year: 2017
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Lady Onyx
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Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2017 1:29 pm Post subject: |
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Pat Anderson wrote: | Here is installment 4 of our Great Loop blog, Around the Loop in 25 Feet! Love to hear your feedback! |
I just stole your idea on the NuWave stove top! |
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thataway
Joined: 02 Nov 2003 Posts: 20808 City/Region: Pensacola
State or Province: FL
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C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
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Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2017 2:40 pm Post subject: |
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We have been using the NuWave induction with the 1000I Honda for several years, and it works fine up to about Medium (275 degrees). We determined the draw with the Kill-0-watt amp/watt meter:
At rest, the induction plate draws 58 watts, so you don't want to leave it plugged into an inverter.
At Low and low medium, the current draw is 600 watts. The current draw increases to 786 watts at 275 degrees, and remains there until 370 degrees on the read out. Then it jumps to 985 watts, at 375 (Medium high).
Hi uses 1065 watts which is beyond the capacity of the Honda EU 1000i.
We find that we can cook almost anything at 270 degrees, Just below Medium--but the Honda EU 1000 is starting to work hard at 785 watts, but can be used up to 370 degrees on the read out of the plate.
It is possible that our unit is bigger physically than Pat's. The top of our induction plate is 12 1/2" and the frying pan is 7" on the bottom and 10 1/4" on the rim.
We got other induction cookware at Target at a good price. |
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hardee
Joined: 30 Oct 2006 Posts: 12632 City/Region: Sequim
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2005
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Sleepy-C
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Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2017 8:48 pm Post subject: |
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Hi Pat and Bob. The Nu-Wave induction cooker has recently caught my eye since they are advertising a "New" design, lower wattage unit, (I believe is the plug), and have been thinking I might be interested. Would you mind posting the model number or name you are using and approximate age, as I think the new one is about a year old at most.
Thanks,
Harvey
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