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South of Heaven



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2016 5:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wefings wrote:
Might want to replace the other 2 spark plugs !~ Thats a six cylinder motor with a 6000 redline , sounds like its severly overpropped or has growth on the bottom .
Marc


Oops! I'll check the service invoice. Hopefully they did all six (i probably had four in my mind from my old F80).

The bottom was spic and span. It was a fresh water boat and had no bottom paint. I however had them paint the bottom last month since Im in a slip in the salt.

As, I stated earlier l'll check the prop dimensions and report back.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2016 5:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DF200A/200AP

I read the flyer for DF200A/200AP located at
http://www.suzukimarine.com/~/media/Marine/Brochures/73186-Suzuki-DF200A%20v4.pdf

and it states it is 4 cylinder and 6100 rpm

Maybe I made a mistake

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South of Heaven



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2016 5:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BrentB wrote:
DF200A/200AP

I read the flyer for DF200A/200AP located at
http://www.suzukimarine.com/~/media/Marine/Brochures/73186-Suzuki-DF200A%20v4.pdf

and it states it is 4 cylinder and 6100 rpm

Maybe I made a mistake


No, those are the new DF200 A's. My motor is a V6.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2016 7:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good and thanks!
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2016 12:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Uh, the DF200A is a 4 cyl. Both Suzuki and Yamaha have 4 cyl 200 hp motors at a slight inchease in weight.

Boris
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2016 2:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In 2006, the DF200 was built as a V6

I think this is correct product info

https://www.mastry.com/images/DF200-225-250%20Brochure.pdf
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2016 8:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I found the pitch on my prop.

I have a 3x16x21.5R . Its a S/S , 3 blade .
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2016 10:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks

Which hole is the OB mounted. #1 is the highest and closer to sky

m2cw
dial in the outboard mounting height first (raise or lower it)
see
http://www.veradoclub.com/index.php?topic=137.0

run it fast at WOT (several times) and write down rpm

re prop if needed

re post here for prop info and or contact Ken at PropGods.com for assistance. Great guy and props are returnable
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2016 11:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just ordered a 19" pitched , 3 bladed SS prop from PropGods. Thanks everyone. Ill report back next week on any new numbers...Hopefully good numbers!
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 24, 2016 12:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

South of Heaven wrote:
I just ordered a 19" pitched , 3 bladed SS prop from PropGods. Thanks everyone. Ill report back next week on any new numbers...Hopefully good numbers!


I had to go with 14 pitch 3 blade on my 150 Verado, also bought from PropGods; great to do business with.
On flat water light I'll hit 35mph, 33 heavy. You should be able to make 38+ with 200hp.
Good luck with the new prop, hopefully you'll be able to hit upper mid range of max rpm at WOT...

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 24, 2016 9:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

breausaw wrote:
South of Heaven wrote:
I just ordered a 19" pitched , 3 bladed SS prop from PropGods. Thanks everyone. Ill report back next week on any new numbers...Hopefully good numbers!


I had to go with 14 pitch 3 blade on my 150 Verado, also bought from PropGods; great to do business with.
On flat water light I'll hit 35mph, 33 heavy. You should be able to make 38+ with 200hp.
Good luck with the new prop, hopefully you'll be able to hit upper mid range of max rpm at WOT...


Yeah, I had a good interaction with PropGods too.

Thanks Jay. I'm hoping that the new prop will fix my low WOT RPM. I really dont think I have a fuel injection or other engine problems. The motor is running great!
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2016 8:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Damnit! So we installed my new prop today. It's a 3 bladed, 16x19 pitch, S/S prop. It was what Ken from PropGods suggested.

Anyway, my RPM did increase BUT only a few hundred! My WOT is now 5100 RPM.

I called back Ken and we're gonna swap it for a 17 pitch. It's frustrating because I really was expecting a BIG change from this prop. He told me that people call him all the time and have the same reaction I did. It's not the end of the world but I was bummed out because my season is coming to an end soon. I really wanted to figure out the RPM issue this year......Aargh!!
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2016 10:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

generally one would.expect to see 200 PRM gain for each inch of prop decrease, but there are other factors, including the amount of cupping, as well as blade design etc. A prop is not a generic. and always follows a rule.

Did you try all trim position, tab positions etc to see what the fastest RPM you could get out of the prop? You have to do this with each prop--and the trim/attitude, amount of tilt/tabs will vary with each specific type of prop blade etc...You have to spend some time playing around with all of these parameters. Also, is the engine running with the antiventillation plate right at the surface of the water when on plane, trimmed out properly? If the engine is too deep, this can throw things way off...Boating is not simple--it is complex, and there are many interactions...

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 19, 2016 7:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Finally got my prop dialed in! I'm running a 3x16x17 (stainless, Powertech brand). This was what I shouldve bought initially but we didn't have any data to know that the 19 that i initially tried would have such a small impact on the rpms.

So now my WOT is 5600 rpm. Still a tad low but Im not complaining! This seems like the perfect pitch for my boat (usually lightly loaded). Im curious to see how she'll do with 4 or 5 ppl on board though.

Im on vacation this week and we're having some great warm weather for New England this time of year. Yesterday was 72, today was 75 and tmmrow is 65. This is my last hurrah before i pull the boat out in 2 weeks. I must say I'm loving the 25! Finally getting comfortable with her and learning her capabilities.

Anyway....it seems my low rpm woes are satisfied now. That's good. I would also like to give a good recommendation for PropGods in FL. Ken helped me a lot over the past month. This is my 2nd prop! He's gonna let me return the first one minus a restocking fee.
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