Question re C22 weight increase

Needaboat! · Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2016 11:13 am Post subject: Question re C22 weight increase

Greetings, C-Brats. We are in the early stages of researching trailerable cruisers, and the 22 Cruiser is at the top of our wish list. The Forums here are a wealth of information which is greatly appreciated as we research differences between model years. One question that we haven't found an answer to regards the C22 dry weight. From sources we have researched, it looks like the weight increased from 1700# to 1925# in 1998 or 1999. Does anyone know the difference that accounts for the weight increase? Thanks-
Claude & Zan
Port Townsend, WA

Sunbeam · Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2016 11:35 am Post subject:

Welcome! What a great boating town/area you hail from Thumbs Up

My guess would be that it was simply an adjustment to the figures, not any real weight increase. And even then, I'd somewhat take it with a grain of salt, as the figures tend to be low.

I can't think of any change that would have suddenly added ~225# to the hull itself. I don't know what that figured is supposed to include, but if it theoretically includes the engine, it may be a reflection of the fact that by that point in time, most folks had changed from a ~250# two-stroke to a ~400# four-stroke (if engine is included in that).

If you are wondering about trailering weight, I'd probably count on 5,000# all-up. You may come in a little lighter, if you pack light, or have an aluminum trailer, but I wouldn't want to NOT count on that much. I have weighed numerous times and usually come in around 4,600#, including tongue weight.

Of the dozen or so C-Dorys I've seen up close (ranging from 1990 to 2009), I haven't seen any substantive changes in quality or build. There have been some feature changes over the years. You might prefer one era or another for its particular mix (I like the early 2000's, so that's what I looked for). That said, by the time a boat is more than a couple years old (and on up to decades old), it's mostly about care and condition, to my mind. (Presuming consistent build quality, which I'd say the C-Dory has in general.)

Salmon Fisher · Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2016 1:22 pm Post subject:

There is a great one in your backyard, see the ad for an impeccable 22 in the for sale link.

http://www.c-brats.com/viewtopic.php?t=24550

Good Luck!

ghone · Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2016 6:29 pm Post subject:

Welcome aboard, lots of great folks and ideas here
Pay no attention to weights in the factory website, real world they are way out. They might have weighed a bare hull and deck long ago. Figure on a very light 22 at 3500 lbs single or twin, light on everything. If you go like a lot of us,
(main and kicker or twins, full water, fuel, 2 batteries, groceries, dinghy, bbq, fridge/freezer, dog, cat, whatever and loaded heavy to cruise plan on 4100 lbs. or so add 1000 for a trailer. In the old days, the boats used 70 hp and had none of the stuff we carry now
Enjoy the search.
I use a '07 Ford F 150 Lariet as tow vehicle with no worries in 20,000 miles
George

Needaboat! · Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2016 7:59 pm Post subject:

Thanks for the replies. I suspect that the source of the specs was wrong - NADA guides. We knew their valuations were unreliable, but guess that applies to model specs as well. At any rate, it doesn't sound like a reason for seeking one model year over another.

Two Bears · Posted: Sun Sep 11, 2016 2:00 am Post subject:

I think the most important thing in buying a boat is to identify your needs. Unfortunately, that can be really difficult. Looking back, I had been a sailor and had reached the point where handling the sailing was becoming difficult and my wife's medicines made her allergic to sunlight, so she had to go below when the sun came out. That made the C-Dory cabin look really desirable.

I took the things that I valued from sailing and backpacking and put them in a power boat planning/ dreaming/ buying thought process. Now, years later, I realized I haven't used the boat as I anticipated. Instead of visiting "wilderness" like Desolation Sound, the Broughtons, & etc we are using the boat as a camper and as a base for boating rivers & places I'd never have taken the sailboat. We've towed across the US three times and next year will be the 4th.

Be "flexible" is the best I can suggest.

Chuck

jennykatz · Posted: Sun Sep 11, 2016 4:27 pm Post subject: weight of cd22

weight of cd22 cruiser was stated at 1925 lb or so and the Angler model was 1700 lb or so that is the discrepancy.
Then you have to add electronics ,trim tabs ,windlass , fridge , batteries (1or2) gas ,water stuff etc etc
Then add the motor or motors 350-450lb or more plus kicker 250lb
Then add the trailer galv single or tandem axcl 900-1200lb
or alum. 750lb -1100lb
We had the 22 cd cruiser on a single axcl galv trailer and assorted electronics and windlass no water a very little fuel about 3800lb

Sunbeam · Posted: Sun Sep 11, 2016 7:41 pm Post subject:

jkidd · Posted: Sun Sep 11, 2016 8:42 pm Post subject:

I think the new hulls are closer to 2300 to 2500 lbs due to the fiberglass cabinets and the cockpit floor. It would be nice for the factory to weight one and get the real weight put up on the web. Last time I weighed mine I was at 5580 lbs. boat motor and trailer and a few misc. things I carry around all the time. If I empty the boat of gear I don't think I could get below 5000 lbs.

thataway · Posted: Sun Sep 11, 2016 10:20 pm Post subject:

The reality is what the boat is going to weight on the trailer, and what truck to buy. The boats are going to weight from 3500 to 5500 lbs--with most coming in at the low to mid 4K range.

All of the hulls are of approximately equal build quality. The variables have been mentioned, but trailers with dual axle, Al vs Gal steel, amount of gear, fuel, etc makes a lot of difference.