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Larry Patrick
Joined: 03 Dec 2011 Posts: 605 City/Region: Dallas
State or Province: PA
C-Dory Year: 2008
C-Dory Model: 23 Venture
Vessel Name: Sea -Jo
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Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2015 7:10 pm Post subject: Trailer bounce empty |
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Drove the trailer 2.5 hrs to pull boat out. Seems to vibrate some and feel jumpy guess word to describe it. After weight of boat its fine. Wondering if I should try different ball heights for empty trailer? ,want to get it to drive empty and handle better. Is it common for empty trailers to feel like that? Next season will be driving it empty for 5 hrs from Lake Erie. |
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journey on
Joined: 03 Mar 2005 Posts: 3595 City/Region: Valley Centre
State or Province: CA
C-Dory Year: 2005
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: journey on
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Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2015 7:21 pm Post subject: |
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Bounce sounds normal. It's designed to haul the boat, not be empty The spring rate is high for the boat, not the empty weight. The other thing is to make sure the brakes are broken loose and the wheels are turning.
The trip isn't going to hurt it. It'll bounce no matter what you do.
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RobMcClain
Joined: 21 May 2012 Posts: 355 City/Region: Summerlin, NV
State or Province: NV
C-Dory Year: 2006
C-Dory Model: 23 Venture
Vessel Name: Freedom
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Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2015 7:54 pm Post subject: |
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As we leap frogged the boat and trailer cruising up the East Coast last year, several times we towed the trailer empty to the next location. This meant driving several hours. Yep, it bounced often but generally rode fine. I did, however, notice that eventually one of the long bunks broke lose from several of the bolts that had been holding it down. As a result, we had to replace the bunk since it was old and had started to decay where the screws were located. So be sure to check the bunks periodically. They may look properly positioned but physically try to lift and move each bunk to assure it is tightly secured. This will add to your piece of mind. It will also assure no bunk unknowingly starts to float and/or move position while the trailer is in the water.
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Casey
Joined: 02 Nov 2003 Posts: 1094 City/Region: The Villages(FL)
State or Province: FL
C-Dory Year: 2006
C-Dory Model: 23 Venture
Vessel Name: "Dessert 1st"
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Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2015 8:31 pm Post subject: |
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A few weeks ago we towed the trailer (empty) from FL back up to NY to retrieve "Dessert 1st." I was wondering if the trailer would jump around, so I dropped the tire pressure from 50psi (max) to 40psi.
The trailer towed fine, but frankly I'm not sure if dropping the pressure was warranted of not, but it worked.
Prior to reloading the boat we increased the pressure back to 50psi.
Best,
C&M _________________ 2013 CC23 "Katmai" renamed "Dessert 1st"
2006 CC23 "Katmai" (purchased August 2009)
2003 CD22 "Naknek" (sold May 2008) |
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hardee
Joined: 30 Oct 2006 Posts: 12632 City/Region: Sequim
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2005
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Sleepy-C
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Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2015 10:39 pm Post subject: |
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Lowering the tire pressure is a good trick. If you have a tandem axle trailer, another trick you can do for a long tow, is to raise one axle of the ground and chain it up. run the chain over the bunk board and it will help keep that from jumping around. Lifting the axle will add weight and decrease the "jumpiness". My preference is to lift the front axle. Puts more weight on the hitch, and lengthens the steering base. If you only have brakes on one axle I would lift the other one.
Harvey
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Dreamer
Joined: 01 Jan 2006 Posts: 1764 City/Region: Really Sunny SaddleBrooke
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Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2015 1:20 am Post subject: |
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Making sure the tires are balanced well helps too _________________ Roger
Once a C-Brat, always a C-Brat
Dreamer- Sold 25 Feb. 2013 |
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colbysmith
Joined: 02 Oct 2011 Posts: 4545 City/Region: Madison
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Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2015 9:14 am Post subject: |
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Also, the trailer itself has a lot of flexibility which adds to that "bounce". The boat, tightly secured gives the trailer more rigidity. Most trailers bounce empty. Lighter weight can be worse. The roads now days can be rather rough with cracks, etc. |
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Grumpy
Joined: 10 Oct 2005 Posts: 1606 City/Region: Whidbey Is
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Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2015 10:16 am Post subject: |
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And if you have electric over hydraulic brakes, back off the boost otherwise you can leave a lot of expensive blue smoke behind you if you have to brake even fairly hard.
Very effective with tailgaters
M _________________ 2006 CD-22 Kingfisher Sold Jan 08.
1987 Arima SeaChaser 17, Sea Star. Sold May 2010
2008 RF246 Kingfisher II Sold Apr 2013 |
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Larry Patrick
Joined: 03 Dec 2011 Posts: 605 City/Region: Dallas
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Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2015 12:03 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks sounds normal after hearing replys,will try lowering pressure next trip.We have Electric over hydraulic brakes,have lowered it to 5 when empty.Ask a question get a lot of good answers on this site. |
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Foggy
Joined: 01 Aug 2013 Posts: 1519 City/Region: Traverse City; Northern Lake Michigan
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Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2015 9:30 pm Post subject: |
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Welcome to the "bounce your empty trailer club".
I had an Eagle steel triple axle trailer that did not bounce when being
towed unloaded. It was solid as a rock loaded or unloaded..
My current Venture aluminum tandem does bounce at 35 - 45 mph
unloaded but then calms down.
Why? I don't begin to know the answer. And, I'm OK with that.
Aye.
Grandma used to say, "Some things you were not meant to understand."
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If someone tells you they don't eat cake, unfriend them. You don't need that kind of negativity in your life. |
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williwaw
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Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2015 8:13 pm Post subject: |
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As said earlier, try balancing the wheels as they're often not balanced on boat trailers. On my trailer it made a significant difference when towing empty. |
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BRAZO
Joined: 29 Jul 2008 Posts: 650 City/Region: Full-time Travel
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Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2015 9:07 pm Post subject: |
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We took our empty trailer 2000 miles from Blaine WA to Wisconsin and had no bounce. Not sure why but it was something that I was worried about and it never happened. _________________ 2008 CD22 Twin 50hp
Full-time Travel - Sprinter4x4, International, C-DORY 22 |
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Pandy Girl
Joined: 08 Dec 2006 Posts: 362 City/Region: Westfield, NC
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Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2015 11:05 pm Post subject: |
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I agree with others I have our Wheels Spin Balanced & I do not any bounce unless I hit a Pot Hole Jim _________________ Pandy Girl |
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thataway
Joined: 02 Nov 2003 Posts: 20803 City/Region: Pensacola
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Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2015 11:25 pm Post subject: |
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A lot depends on the roads. Many interstates have concrete segments, which with time sink/raise, and especially in the S. to Mid USA, you are going to have empty trailer bounce! You get full vehicle bounce! _________________ Bob Austin
Thataway
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Larry Patrick
Joined: 03 Dec 2011 Posts: 605 City/Region: Dallas
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Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 5:13 pm Post subject: |
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Will get tires balanced also. When driving our Lance truck camper on some roads you feel like your riding a bronco,it starts porposing in front. We have struts that go from nose of camper to hood of truck which helps a lot. |
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