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bridma
Joined: 13 Sep 2011 Posts: 1155 City/Region: Comox
State or Province: BC
C-Dory Year: 2009
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Nomad
Photos: Nomad
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Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2015 8:50 pm Post subject: No Condensation, |
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Hi George (Kerri On),
You and Carolyn spend a lot of time on your boat, did you find a cure for V-Berth ventilation? I remember awhile back you talked about useing soffit material. How did that work out?
Any input from other Brats would be welcome. I have to do something, my admiral is getting crabby about the condensation.
I told her about my old navy days about coming off watch and getting in a "warm" hammock still smelling of the previous occupant's sweat. A bit of condensation is nothing. She was not amused with that either!
Martin. |
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ghone
Joined: 13 Aug 2008 Posts: 1428 City/Region: Nanaimo
State or Province: BC
C-Dory Year: 2011
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Kerri On
Photos: Kerri On
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Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2015 9:22 pm Post subject: Hypervent |
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Hi Martin, you're right I had good sucess with vinyl soffit material but still had too much condensation near feet and more on Carolyn's side ( she's hot!)
I just took it out and installed Hypervent from Industrial Plastics It should do way better It's a bit on the spendy side I got 8 lineal feet of 40" wide at $168.00 Cdn
Our week out last week produced no moisture Better get some! I also put 1/2 inch foam on the berth sides and deck but not cabin over head
Cozy now |
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hardee
Joined: 30 Oct 2006 Posts: 12632 City/Region: Sequim
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2005
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Sleepy-C
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Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2015 3:30 am Post subject: |
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Timely question. I have had very little issue with condensation, but see it mentioned often. I have wondered if DryDeck under the sleeping mattresses would make a difference. It would allow much more air circulation under the pads.
I do keep the front hatch open at least to the first notch, and the center window is open to that first notch and then one side window is open ~4 inches. Also, I have my CPAP machine running which works kind of like a fan.
Harvey
SleepyC
_________________ Though in our sleep we are not conscious of our activity or surroundings, we should not, in our wakefulness, be unconscious of our sleep. |
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Casey
Joined: 02 Nov 2003 Posts: 1094 City/Region: The Villages(FL)
State or Province: FL
C-Dory Year: 2006
C-Dory Model: 23 Venture
Vessel Name: "Dessert 1st"
Photos: Dessert 1st
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Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2015 6:39 am Post subject: |
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We also use HyperVent below the V-berth cushions, together with a length of unicellular foam (backpacker sleeping pad from Walmart, $ along each side and that seems to help a lot. Ventilating the closed space seems to be very useful, but when you're trying keep warm that is problematic.
We ordered a 12v fan to help move the air, and that will help some as well.
...also a good idea to keep a mop-up towel and a smallish shower squeege handy. Use the squeege on the windows and the towel on the drippy bulkheads and overhead, then hang it outside on the cockpit clothes line.
We're still searching for the perfect solution (...possibly Lake Powell).
Best,
C&M _________________ 2013 CC23 "Katmai" renamed "Dessert 1st"
2006 CC23 "Katmai" (purchased August 2009)
2003 CD22 "Naknek" (sold May 2008) |
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williwaw
Joined: 05 Jan 2014 Posts: 148 City/Region: Portland
State or Province: OR
C-Dory Year: 2007
C-Dory Model: 23 Venture
Vessel Name: Williwaw
Photos: Williwaw
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Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2015 9:54 am Post subject: |
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I insulated the V-berth on Williwaw using closed cell foam (1/2" ceiling, 3/8" walls) and it made a MASSIVE difference. Highly recommended for anybody that spends much time sleeping on the boat. No more condensation on walls or ceiling.
I made paper templates for half the berth from brown construction paper then cut the foam to near size. I cleaned the walls with denatured alcohol and used 3M spray adhesive to make it stick. You get a few minutes of working time so it's a bit more forgiving than contact cement. Made final trims using a razor knife with the blade all the way out. Oh, and use a respirator if you don't want to lose a few IQ points. I still have the paper templates around here somewhere so anybody with a Venture 23 (26?) who wants to do it just let me know and I'll pass them on.
Kinda a pain to do but you won't regret it. |
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chimoii
Joined: 18 Feb 2009 Posts: 271
State or Province: BC
C-Dory Year: 2017
C-Dory Model: R-25 Tug
Vessel Name: Chimo
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Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2015 10:56 am Post subject: |
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williwaw wrote: | I insulated the V-berth on Williwaw using closed cell foam (1/2" ceiling, 3/8" walls) and it made a MASSIVE difference. Highly recommended for anybody that spends much time sleeping on the boat. No more condensation on walls or ceiling.
I made paper templates for half the berth from brown construction paper then cut the foam to near size. I cleaned the walls with denatured alcohol and used 3M spray adhesive to make it stick. You get a few minutes of working time so it's a bit more forgiving than contact cement. Made final trims using a razor knife with the blade all the way out. Oh, and use a respirator if you don't want to lose a few IQ points. I still have the paper templates around here somewhere so anybody with a Venture 23 (26?) who wants to do it just let me know and I'll pass them on.
Kinda a pain to do but you won't regret it. |
Our 23 Venture was fully foam insulated at the factory and I've never had a problem. Did you add foam over the existing insulation?
Thanks _________________ Chimo: a word of greeting, farewell, and toast before drinking once widely spoken in the Inuktitut language in northern Canada. |
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williwaw
Joined: 05 Jan 2014 Posts: 148 City/Region: Portland
State or Province: OR
C-Dory Year: 2007
C-Dory Model: 23 Venture
Vessel Name: Williwaw
Photos: Williwaw
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Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2015 11:05 am Post subject: |
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I have a 2007 Cape Cruiser so no factory insulation. I believe that became available in 2008 when C-Dory took over manufacturing. |
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bridma
Joined: 13 Sep 2011 Posts: 1155 City/Region: Comox
State or Province: BC
C-Dory Year: 2009
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Nomad
Photos: Nomad
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Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2015 3:37 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks guys for all your great input. It gives me something to work with.
Martin. |
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BRAZO
Joined: 29 Jul 2008 Posts: 650 City/Region: Full-time Travel
State or Province: NV
C-Dory Year: 2008
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Meyer Meyer
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rogerbum
Joined: 21 Nov 2004 Posts: 5922 City/Region: Kenmore
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2008
C-Dory Model: 255 Tomcat
Vessel Name: Meant to be
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Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2015 4:54 pm Post subject: |
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That looks interesting - that's 25sq of material for $30 or $1.20/sq ft. Compared to Hypervent - 1 linear foot of the 39" wide material is 3.25 sq. ft and costs $12. That's $3.69/sq. ft. or about 3x more. Now admittedly, you will have to tape together more squares to get full v-berth coverage but that's not a big deal. _________________ Roger on Meant to be |
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