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Half Share
Joined: 27 Mar 2013 Posts: 56 City/Region: Colleyville
State or Province: TX
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Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2013 11:17 am Post subject: Power Trailer Dolly |
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Does anyone have experience with a powered trailer dolly? Either the electric or battery powered ones. I saw some old posts from 05 on the forum but thought there may be more recent experiences.
The two I am looking at are the Parkit 360 and the Powermover
http://www.parkit360.ca/
http://powermoverinc.net/
It appears the Parkit 360 hooks up to the trailer ball and some reviews questioned its stability.
Thanks
Mitch _________________ Mitch |
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Grumpy
Joined: 10 Oct 2005 Posts: 1606 City/Region: Whidbey Is
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Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2013 11:24 am Post subject: |
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When I returned from a cruise to pick up my stored (triple axle) trailer, I found it was in a position where I could not reach it with the Chevvy and it was way too heavy to lift and pull by hand. Yard owner brought out his lawn tractor fitted with a ball hitch and solved the problem.
Jus' sayin"
M _________________ 2006 CD-22 Kingfisher Sold Jan 08.
1987 Arima SeaChaser 17, Sea Star. Sold May 2010
2008 RF246 Kingfisher II Sold Apr 2013 |
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jkidd
Joined: 23 Oct 2006 Posts: 1620 City/Region: Northern, Utah
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Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2013 1:20 pm Post subject: |
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I have a power caster. I tried using it with a ball and it tends to be way to tippy and can get you in some bad situations. I have a SS coupling welded to a piece of flat stock that is bolted to the bottom of the tongue. Then a post that screws to that coupling and fits the socket on the power caster. Much better this way it is ridgid and can't tip over. My shop is a 90 degree turn and across the backyard. You couldn't get it there without the mover.
http://www.c-brats.com/modules.php?full=1&set_albumName=Voyager-General-Pictures&id=IMG_1248&op=modload&name=gallery&file=index&include=view_photo.php
Can't get the picture to show up on the iPad . The link works. _________________ Jody Kidd
KE7WNG
Northern, Utah
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Da Nag
Joined: 24 Oct 2003 Posts: 2820 City/Region: Port Angeles
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C-Dory Model: 16 Angler
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Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2013 2:11 pm Post subject: |
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Tell us a little more about your needs - where the trailer needs to go, grade, surface, obstacles etc. I've found all of these come in to play, and some solutions work much better than others given your particular environment.
I've become somewhat adept at moving trailers around my property...I've got 5 of them, including two with boats atop. They all go in/out of tight places routinely. My tools of the trade:
- Front mounted hitch. Much more maneuverable than a rear mount hitch, but not always the best when trying to squeeze something into a garage corner.
- Ball hitch on back of tractor's 3-point. It's very fast to hook up (can do it from the seat), as maneuverable as the front mount hitch on the truck, and gives me the ability to place trailers where I can't/won't drive my truck. Certainly not an option for everyone, but for those who have one - just do it. You'll never use your vehicle's front or rear hitch around the house again.
- Electric trailer dolly. By far the most maneuverable, but it's slow and is limited to flat/smooth ground. It will usually work across level and groomed gravel, but not always - any small obstacle a trailer tire encounters can hang it up. It's ideal for asphalt/concrete - nothing better. Also, I wouldn't go with one that has a ball mount. Those with their own adaptors (Powercaster and Powermover) are much easier to attach, more stable, and maneuver more easily given that they mount back of the ball.
- Manual trailer dolly. I actually use this one a lot on concrete for smaller trailers. Works nicely with my 16 and 5x8 trailer, but too small for anything bigger/heavier. _________________ Will, C-Brat Nerd |
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Half Share
Joined: 27 Mar 2013 Posts: 56 City/Region: Colleyville
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Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2013 3:08 pm Post subject: |
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It will be on concrete without any lips or uneven spots. It is almost flat with a very slight slope in one spot.
I thought about the hitch on the front of the truck but do not have enough turning room. The farm tractor would be perfect but it is 3hours away.
I do not have a use for a garden tractor but that raised the idea of using a 4wheeler. It would require raising the hitch but I would think you would need to do that with a garden tractor
Has anyone used a 4 wheeler to move their boat.
It is a 26 foot cape cruiser.
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digger
Joined: 02 Nov 2003 Posts: 496 City/Region: Spokane
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Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2013 3:20 pm Post subject: |
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I have had a power mover for several years and use it often. The trailer has a cylinder mounted on plates that are permanently bolted to the trailer. The mover has a solid metal 2 1/2 inch round stock that slides into the trailer cylinder. That way the mover will not tip over. Much better than a trailer ball hitch arrangement. It is slow but very manageable and maneuverable. Well worth the investment. Ron |
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Da Nag
Joined: 24 Oct 2003 Posts: 2820 City/Region: Port Angeles
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Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2013 4:16 pm Post subject: |
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Half Share wrote: | It will be on concrete without any lips or uneven spots. It is almost flat with a very slight slope in one spot. |
Powercaster or Powermover would be my choice. You'll be able to put it anywhere you want with ease.
Half Share wrote: | Has anyone used a 4 wheeler to move their boat. |
You mean a quad? Personally, I'd not use one given the tongue weight involved. Maybe on a 16, but for a 22 or larger - I'd be concerned with damaging the quad. Regardless, even if that's not a concern - it won't maneuver anywhere near as well as an electric dolly.
The beauty of an electric dolly, is the ability to change the direction of push/pull within 180 degrees instantly, without disconnecting anything. Pushing directly from either side, you can easily pivot the trailer on its wheels - even if it's a tandem. No tow vehicle can do this. |
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jkidd
Joined: 23 Oct 2006 Posts: 1620 City/Region: Northern, Utah
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Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2013 8:52 pm Post subject: |
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Tried it with a 3 wheeler once it was to much weight for the tires and I couldn't steer. My Razor says it can tow 1200 lbs. and that means 120 lbs. tongue weight. The Powercaster is great wish I would have bought the dual wheel one when I did. The one I bought works just fine the only time I had trouble was when I was moving across grass. I just had to put some boards down. |
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Aurelia
Joined: 21 Aug 2009 Posts: 2331 City/Region: Gig Harbor
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Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 1:05 am Post subject: |
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I think these are worth a look for trailer moving needs. The price is much less than most electric and no wiring is required plus it lives on the trailer so you always have it with you.
http://www.etrailer.com/Hitch-Accessories/Trailer-Valet/STC-V211.html _________________ Greg, Cindie & Aven
Gig Harbor
Aurelia - 25 Cruiser sold 2012
Ari - 19 Cruiser sold 2023
currently exploring with "Lia", 17 ft Bullfrog Supersport Pilothouse |
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Da Nag
Joined: 24 Oct 2003 Posts: 2820 City/Region: Port Angeles
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Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 1:43 am Post subject: |
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Aurelia wrote: | ...plus it lives on the trailer so you always have it with you. |
Man...I'd be very leery about getting one of those. Seems to me, being permanently attached is a major design defect - at least for a boat trailer.
One or two dips in the saltwater, and I'll bet its days would be numbered. |
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Aurelia
Joined: 21 Aug 2009 Posts: 2331 City/Region: Gig Harbor
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Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 11:29 am Post subject: |
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I don't recall ever having a jack go in the water while launching a boat. My current toy gets dunked to the top of the fenders but the jack is always dry. Also this model, like many, swivels so that the "works" could ride above the tounge while the trailer is in motion and during launching duty. |
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My IRA
Joined: 18 Dec 2003 Posts: 233 City/Region: Springfield
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Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 12:18 pm Post subject: |
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We have a Power Mover (a 4 wheeled model-1/2 HP Dayton Motor) that we've used with various boats and trailers for the past 10 years. Ours is a good unit, no problems, frame mount socket. The unit seems to move about anything that one can attach it to (our largest load was about 10,000 lbs.).
Power Boat Reports compared Power Caster and Power Mover a few years back, and both got good reviews. Ball mounts work well with small boats/trailres but as mentioned above lack stability with larger loads and heavier tongue weights. _________________ Jerry and Helen
1984 Arima Explorer sold 1985
1985 Arima 17 SR sold 1992
1992 C-Dory 22 Cruiser sold 8/96
1992 OLympic 26XLF Sold 10/2000
1989 Arima 19 SR sold 2003
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Half Share
Joined: 27 Mar 2013 Posts: 56 City/Region: Colleyville
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Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2013 9:18 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for everyone's input. I am leaning toward the Powermover. Need to contact them on a couple of issues and see how it goes. |
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Aurelia
Joined: 21 Aug 2009 Posts: 2331 City/Region: Gig Harbor
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Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2015 7:19 pm Post subject: |
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I just ordered a Trailer Valet hand crank powered jack. I figured out that the jack assembly attaches to the trailer bracket with a simple pin like a ball insert to hitch so I can just take it off the trailer and store it indoors or even in the tow vehicle if I feel it gets in the way or is weathering while stored.
I will fill you all in on how it goes after I have some chances to use it.
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cmetzenberg
Joined: 04 Jan 2014 Posts: 367 City/Region: Santa Barbara
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Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2015 5:35 am Post subject: |
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I've been using a front mounted hitch on my truck to get my triple axled trailer into my driveway, i live on a very narrow street. Works great. Just saying. _________________ Conrad Metzenberg
07' Tomcat 255 "Kanaloa"
87' Boston Whaler Guardian 17 (BlackFlag, 03-14)
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