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Westie
Joined: 08 Jun 2014 Posts: 177 City/Region: Bodega Bay
State or Province: CA
C-Dory Year: 2006
C-Dory Model: 255 Tomcat
Vessel Name: True North
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Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2014 8:52 pm Post subject: New CD22 Angler - good idea? |
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Hi there!
I've been boat-less for a few weeks now and going crazy. I'm certain my next boat will be a C Dory. I'm a hardcore fisherman in northern ca (bodega, sf bay). I'm considering ordering a new 22 angler. I would have the port side table converted into a bench seat. I called the factory and this is an option they offer. Does anyone have experience with this?
The factory does not have any pictures. They told me the seat would be 4' 6". I'd like storage underneath and my wife requires a seat to sit up and read while I fish. Seems reasonable to me.
I like this option because of the cockpit size with a warm, enclosed cabin which is easy to tow with my SUV. I would do some overnights but likely not more than a few times per year.
My only real concern is the lack of 22 anglers on the used market. I've PMed a few on this site and they love them. Is this brand marketed towards long range cruisers?
I've been in lust with C Dory since seeing my marina neighbors boat at work on the salmon grounds. It looked sturdy, dry, and safe....I gotta get one!
Any advice is welcome. |
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localboy
Joined: 30 Sep 2006 Posts: 4656 City/Region: Lake Stevens via Honolulu
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2007
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: 'Au Kai (Ocean Traveler)
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Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2014 8:55 pm Post subject: |
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I remember seeing a pic of what you describe, w/ two dogs lying on the bench seat. _________________ "We can go over there...behind the 'little one'....."
Wife to her husband pointing @ us...from the bow of their 50-footer; Prideaux Haven 2013 |
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thataway
Joined: 02 Nov 2003 Posts: 20814 City/Region: Pensacola
State or Province: FL
C-Dory Year: 2007
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: thataway
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Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2014 10:19 pm Post subject: |
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The Angler is popular--but it seems not many built recently. Do ride in a C Dory before buying and be sure that this is the type of boat you want.
The C Dory 22 weight can be slightly mis-leading. Most come in at somewhere between 4100 and 4500 lbs on the trailer.
The Angler would be fine for an occasional over night--or a week or so if you wish. Folks even "cruise" in the 16--so the 22 is a palace.
Welcome aboard. _________________ Bob Austin
Thataway
Thataway (Ex Seaweed) 2007 25 C Dory May 2018 to Oct. 2021
Thisaway 2006 22' CDory November 2011 to May 2018
Caracal 18 140 Suzuki 2007 to present
Thataway TomCat 255 150 Suzukis June 2006 thru August 2011
C Pelican; 1992, 22 Cruiser, 2002 thru 2006
Frequent Sea; 2003 C D 25, 2007 thru 2009
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Home port: Pensacola FL |
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Sunbeam
Joined: 23 Feb 2012 Posts: 3990 City/Region: Out 'n' About
State or Province: Other
C-Dory Year: 2002
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
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Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2014 11:30 pm Post subject: |
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I think the Angler is less popular just because many people who are drawn to the C-Dory are drawn to the idea of the cozy cabin, and have ideas of cruising with numerous overnights, etc. Or they need to be able to have a second berth in the main cabin. Or want to cook in the cabin on those longer trips, etc. So more people buy the Cruiser because the C-Dory makes people fantasize about (and do) cruising. In other words, I don't think it's because of any flaw with the Angler, per se.
You might want to send a PM to member mgarr682, and look up his previous posts here. He bought a brand new Angler around a year ago. Here is a link to his profile (from which you can find posts and also send a PM). He posted a number of photos in his threads about outfitting his Angler, so you could get a look at it that way.
http://www.c-brats.com/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&u=6202 |
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Leo Smith
Joined: 02 Nov 2003 Posts: 193 City/Region: West Seattle
State or Province: WA
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Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2014 9:13 am Post subject: |
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The 22 Angler was C-Dory's first model, introduced in the early 80's. After a few years, the 22 Cruiser was introduced. Same hull, longer cabin, shorter cockpit. The sales of the 22 Cruiser quickly exceeded the sales of the 22 Angler, but they are both excellent boats. |
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T.R. Bauer
Joined: 17 Nov 2007 Posts: 1726 City/Region: Wasilla
State or Province: AK
C-Dory Year: 1993
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: C-Whisperer
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Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2014 1:29 pm Post subject: |
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I have a cruiser (wife, need I say anything else) but wish I had an angler a lot of times. They are somewhat harder to find....I think their resale value is slightly less than the cruiser but this could just be an Alaskan thing. Bob is right about the weight...they rarely come in on the trailer at 3500 pounds. I have weighed mine, which has twins, a kicker for trolling, dingy, 4 shrimp pots with puller, and basically everything one needs for cruising and it is really close to 5000 pounds on the trailer. Because fuel is an issue where I boat, I have 70 gallons of fuel on board for extended range and that bumps mine up some. Mine is a pig sometimes......LOL.... |
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Westie
Joined: 08 Jun 2014 Posts: 177 City/Region: Bodega Bay
State or Province: CA
C-Dory Year: 2006
C-Dory Model: 255 Tomcat
Vessel Name: True North
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Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2014 1:59 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for the input. I have a 6700# towing capacity so I think I'll be ok. Most towing will be from dry storage at the marina to the ramp anyway. I would like the option to bring the boat to Tahoe and other freshwater lakes in the area.
My biggest issue is not seeing that bench seat. It my wife's only stipulation! |
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Tug
Joined: 22 Jun 2007 Posts: 983 City/Region: Sault Ste. Marie
State or Province: ON
C-Dory Year: 1985
C-Dory Model: 22 Angler
Vessel Name: Drifter
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Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2014 2:19 pm Post subject: |
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I have an older Angler and I love it and would never think twice about buying a new one if the opportunity arrises. Tug |
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mattfailor
Joined: 29 Dec 2012 Posts: 5 City/Region: St. Helens
State or Province: OR
C-Dory Year: 2008
C-Dory Model: 22 Angler
Vessel Name: Ody-C
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Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2014 7:07 pm Post subject: |
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I have a 2008 angler and love it! Mine is mainly a fishing boat though and I don't spend a lot of time cruising on it. If you're ever this way I would be happy to take you out in it. Good luck! |
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hardee
Joined: 30 Oct 2006 Posts: 12633 City/Region: Sequim
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2005
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Sleepy-C
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Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 1:00 am Post subject: |
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I believe the version of the 22 that you are looking for (the seat instead of the table) is called a Commuter. They are pretty rare. I think there is one up on the north end of Vancouver Island, and another way back east and seems like there was one on one of the Cayman Islands too. That's really stretching the memory cells, so I could be off a bit. (Hmmmm some say there's a pretty good chance of that
The angler does not have much room behind the helm seat, so that 4ft seems like it would be generous, but they should know what they are talking about.
Good luck, and welcome here.
Harvey
SleepyC _________________ Though in our sleep we are not conscious of our activity or surroundings, we should not, in our wakefulness, be unconscious of our sleep. |
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Tug
Joined: 22 Jun 2007 Posts: 983 City/Region: Sault Ste. Marie
State or Province: ON
C-Dory Year: 1985
C-Dory Model: 22 Angler
Vessel Name: Drifter
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Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 11:48 am Post subject: |
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I have never seen a newer 22 ' Angler, would like to see one fully rigged on a trailer or in the water. The C-Dory site never shows any pictures of them so how or why would someone buy one. Tug |
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thataway
Joined: 02 Nov 2003 Posts: 20814 City/Region: Pensacola
State or Province: FL
C-Dory Year: 2007
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: thataway
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Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 1:27 pm Post subject: |
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From the C Dory web site:
The PDF on the C Dory 22 angler shows 4'4" from the bulkhead between the V berth and the pilothouse, to the aft bulkhead of the pilot house.
It would be difficult to lie down in 4'4", and if it was high enough to allow vision out of the windows, your feet may be dangling well above the floor, unless there is a little ledge for the feet in the center isle. Also there is an issue with the space where the side deck is--the cabin is inset about 6", so that has to be dealt with. |
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Tug
Joined: 22 Jun 2007 Posts: 983 City/Region: Sault Ste. Marie
State or Province: ON
C-Dory Year: 1985
C-Dory Model: 22 Angler
Vessel Name: Drifter
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Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 7:01 pm Post subject: |
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I just looked at Glenda Jeans' album , great looking boat. I want one but I have to say ( my personal opinion ). I am not a fan of those Patio Doors everyone seems to be using now. They even have them on Nordic Tugs , if I were to buy a new Angler the Patio door would have to be exchanged for a real door. Tug |
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Westie
Joined: 08 Jun 2014 Posts: 177 City/Region: Bodega Bay
State or Province: CA
C-Dory Year: 2006
C-Dory Model: 255 Tomcat
Vessel Name: True North
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Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 7:32 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for the input. I'm looking for a bench that is the size of love seat. It doesnt need to be big enough to lay down. I want her to be able to sit with her feet up on the bench and face forward to backward and read a book. I think 4' 4" might work. If the cushions are 2" or so on either side, there would be 4' of seat. I could put some storage below the bench. I cant see using a small table much.
I could also buy a cruiser, but Im struggling with buying a boat made for a purpose that isn't my priority (cruising). I'm a fisherman and I'm really sold on C Dory. Maybe the Tomcat 255 is my perfect boat but buying something new (w/ trailer-ability for me) seems like my best option.
Any thoughts are welcome... |
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thataway
Joined: 02 Nov 2003 Posts: 20814 City/Region: Pensacola
State or Province: FL
C-Dory Year: 2007
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: thataway
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Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 10:58 pm Post subject: |
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The Tom Cat comes in close to 10,000 lbs on the trailer. That weight is one of the major reasons we are back to a 22 instead of still owning the Tom Cat (My wife gives me grief almost every day for selling the Tom Cat!) I suspect her solution would be to buy a bigger truck (Love that lady!). |
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