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Pedromo



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 11:14 pm    Post subject: Any new pilots for hydraulic steered outboards Reply with quote

Has anyone tried or installed any of the newer autopilots on their CD's?
I'm curious about the new Raymarine line
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hambone



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 7:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not yet, but looking hard at them for my 22. Thinking about the Garmin?
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Ray



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 8:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I installed an S1000 on my 25. After replacing a faulty remote, all is well and satisfactory.

Really like being able to steer from the cockpit and auto fishing patterns are neat.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 9:28 am    Post subject: autopilot Reply with quote

Anybody else have the S1000 and have it hooked up to another brand of chartplotter other than Raymarine?

Dan
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 11:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I installed the s1000 in 2005 & it's set up for connection to either my Garmin 545 or 276 & works well with both.

The pump went out last fall at lake Powell & I'm just now replacing with a new pump from Hydraulics Projects LTD in Devon, UK. It's supposed to be more robust & quieter. In the process of purchasing a tech from that Company told me Raymarine is now using this pump in the s1000. This should be good news for those now considering purchase of the s1000.

Jay

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 5:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The s-1000 is one of the first things I installed when I bought C-Lover new. I use it with Hummingbird. I have gone from Pensacola to Brownsville,tx to Key West and up to Jacksonville. About 4,000 miles. All solo. Could not have done it with out the s-1000. I also solo fish a lot and could not do that without the AP.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 9:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

flrockytop wrote:
The s-1000 is one of the first things I installed when I bought C-Lover new. I use it with Hummingbird. I have gone from Pensacola to Brownsville,tx to Key West and up to Jacksonville. About 4,000 miles. All solo. Could not have done it with out the s-1000. I also solo fish a lot and could not do that without the AP.
Roger


Last December I stopped in at the Crescent City Marine store and ask them about the S-1000. Having little knowledge of the pilot they called them and they did not recommend it for my boat as I wanted primarily for fishing at slow speeds, less than 5 knots. My question for Roger is how has it worked out using it for fishing? I've done a lot of research on it and some say it has worked fine, others say get something else. Crook
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 9:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had a S1000 connected to a Furuno chartplotter. I was disappointed with the performance. Because it uses Course Over Ground to keep its plot, it will fall off its track if your Speed Over Ground drops below about 2kts. And you have to get up to over 2kts just to set the course. If you're trolling against a 1kt current, you don't want to have to pull your gear through 3kts of current just to set the AP. That didn't work well with my style of fishing.

I replaced it with a Garmin GHP 10. It's one of the best upgrades I ever made to C-Dawg.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 9:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have seen reports about slow speed. I have not had a problem. I think if you have a good gps signal is the answer. I troll at about 5mph and have no problems. Most of my 4,000 miles has been at 6 to 7 mph. I have gone 10- 15 miles and never touched the the wheel.

Roger
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 5:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

C-Dawg wrote:
I had a S1000 connected to a Furuno chartplotter. I was disappointed with the performance. Because it uses Course Over Ground to keep its plot, it will fall off its track if your Speed Over Ground drops below about 2kts. And you have to get up to over 2kts just to set the course. If you're trolling against a 1kt current, you don't want to have to pull your gear through 3kts of current just to set the AP. That didn't work well with my style of fishing.

I replaced it with a Garmin GHP 10. It's one of the best upgrades I ever made to C-Dawg.

Ditto Rick. I guess what I learned is that I need to pick-up and go back up current to troll down with the current rather than troll against the current. Kind of a hassle. The S 1000 is not the best fishing AP for salmon fishing IMHO because you troll so slow. I had the good fortune of fishing with Rick last summer and his Garmin is the shizzle. Thumbs Up

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 8:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The RayMarine does not have a gyro rated compass, so it depends on the GPS for heading. The GPS heading is not accurate enough at low speed to give the steering information it needs. Getting a Gyro rated compass or GPS compass with at least 10 per second updates should improve its handling at low speeds….but the reason that the 1000 is cheap, is because it does not include the expensive compass….
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 25, 2014 9:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thataway wrote:
The RayMarine does not have a gyro rated compass, so it depends on the GPS for heading. The GPS heading is not accurate enough at low speed to give the steering information it needs. Getting a Gyro rated compass or GPS compass with at least 10 per second updates should improve its handling at low speeds….but the reason that the 1000 is cheap, is because it does not include the expensive compass….


Yep, agree Bob.
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