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jordanclarke



Joined: 13 Aug 2013
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City/Region: Okanagan
State or Province: BC
C-Dory Year: 2008
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: ANOTHER OBSESSION
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 01, 2014 11:07 pm    Post subject: Rear steering station on a 22 Reply with quote

Hi there. Happy New year!!


I would like to add a seastar helm on the rear bulk head of my 22. Does anyone have pics of this on there boat. What size steering have you been using and do you find the height ok? Any tips or thoughts would be appreciated.


Thanks
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NORO LIM



Joined: 24 Apr 2008
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City/Region: Olympia
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2006
C-Dory Model: 23 Venture
Vessel Name: NORO LIM (sold 12/12/14)
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 01, 2014 11:42 pm    Post subject: Re: Rear steering station on a 22 Reply with quote

jordanclarke wrote:
Hi there. Happy New year!!


I would like to add a seastar helm on the rear bulk head of my 22. Does anyone have pics of this on there boat. What size steering have you been using and do you find the height ok? Any tips or thoughts would be appreciated.


Thanks


Different boat (23 Venture) but here's a picture of my cockpit helm (not the best picture, but the only one I could find on short order). The second helm has been a life saver a couple of times when single handing the boat. I really really like it, especially for approaching moorages.

I would encourage you to think very carefully about the placement of the wheel and the controls.

I replaced the original wheel with a smaller diameter one because the original seemed to be in the way a lot, and installed a knob. (Knobs are the greatest idea since I don't know what.)

I moved the controls from the face of the console, where the factory had installed them, to the top of the console. Once (just once!) with the original set-up, I hit the shifter with my foot while exiting the cockpit with mooring lines in hand. A very exciting, not-to-be-repeated experience. In the new location, my knuckles would actually hit the bulkhead if I pushed the throttle full ahead, but I wanted the controls as much out of the road as possible. The window above the helm is also an opener, and unless it's all the way closed, or all the way open, it could interfere with easy throttle movement, but I've had no problems. Anyway, I hate to think what would be going on if I ever felt it necessary to hit WOT from the cockpit.

I also installed a kill switch at the second helm - which clearly should have been done at the factory.

Just some things to think about.

Good luck with your project. Post pictures when you're done!


On edit: Here's another picture (again not the best to show the helm). This is the original set-up with the larger wheel, face-mounted controls and no kill switch, but it gives a better view of the console.


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jordanclarke



Joined: 13 Aug 2013
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City/Region: Okanagan
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C-Dory Year: 2008
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 02, 2014 12:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks

I will just be adding the helm, all the I would like the shifter aft with the twin motors it will be pretty pricey. I fish a lot alone so having control aft is important well I'm trolling
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Discovery



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C-Dory Year: 2006
C-Dory Model: 255 Tomcat
Vessel Name: Discovery
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 02, 2014 9:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote



On our 22' Angler. Shift, trim, start and throttle controls the 8 HP kicker. Steering does main and kicker via steering link.

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DuckDogTitus



Joined: 31 Jan 2013
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City/Region: Gig Harbor
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C-Dory Year: 1988
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 02, 2014 10:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't have any great pictures of the rear helm specifically in my album, but you can peruse Digger's album a bit as well. I bought the boat from Ron, and he had already made this modification. I'm extremely appreciative that he did! we have motor controls, and he had put electrical in place (as well as a nice stained shelf) for depth/gps/fish. You could probably PM Digger on these forums for more details if you like the setup. I like it very much. When its just me and one other person, it sure makes trolling easy.





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PostPosted: Thu Jan 02, 2014 7:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

if you are just going to use the second helm for fishing I would go with just a auto pilot with a remote. You could even mount a second control head for the auto pilot on the aft bulk head wall. It would save a lot of room. I would think about the same price if you where moving the controls. Maybe not if you are not moving the throttle.
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G Gallagher



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C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 02, 2014 8:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a 2nd wheel on the starboard bulkhead and also a TR-1 Gold auto-pilot by Garmin. I have found that I tend not to use the steering wheel so much, but rather use the auto-pilot as I can carry it around with me. I have also found that if I use that wheel back there to get up on plane returning home,it shifts the boat weight back and just doesn't feel good to me.Using it for the kicker only is good.

I believe that the cost of the TR-1 would be about $2500 and the cost of the second wheel and speed controls back there would about balance out.

If you don't have both speed and steering controls,it is probably a waste of money.
Of course, I no longer have a C-Dory,but rather a Hewescraft Ocean Pro Aluminum boat, so it may be somewhat different in feel.

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jordanclarke



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 02, 2014 9:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would like a autopilot but I have not found any for less then 2500 bucks. I can add a steering staion for around $650. Anyone know where to find a cheaper autopilot that works well at trolling speed. I have twins so the tr 1 is out. I used to have a Hewescraft there worked pretty well!
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