Questions for canvas maker

Lucky Day · Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2010 8:02 pm Post subject: Questions for canvas maker

I have decided to go ahead and commission step 1 of a canvas project that ultimately will wind up with a camperback. I need to protect the cockpit from winter weather -- and I need sun protection for the summer. After consulting with a canvas shop, I'm planning to go ahead with a bimini. I want to emulate what Valkyrie and Thataway have done; i.e. a free standing unit with a detachable connection to the cabin top for free flow air in the summer. For this winter, it will be the bimini only with sides to be installed when my bank account fills up again.

For this winter, I am planning to close off the sides by draping a tarp over the bimini and snugging it up with bungees. The canvasmaker has told me that such a free standing unit, fabricated with 7/8 stainless framing and covered with the tarp will be strong enough to bear the weight of snow.

I like the idea - spend some now, add more canvas later - get winter protection now and overhead sun protection to boot.

Any thoughts, C-Brats?

dotnmarty · Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2010 9:31 pm Post subject:

There is nothing wrong with getting a bimini now and closing it in later, but I
wouldn't keep it up when storing the boat outside during the winter. If money is tight and you are getting a tarp anyway, why not just cover the boat with the tarp? If you want a canvas covering the cockpit under the winter tarp, consider a slant back mooring cover. It too is an item that will be useful all year long. Also, you might consider a full winter cover, which can be used with or without the mooring cover.

thataway · Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2010 9:40 pm Post subject:

I would agree with the above. For snow, I want something which is not flat on top--and the Bimini will be too flat. The slant back--or even making a framework of wood, or rope with a good slant to it, and then the tarp. Don't leave the cockpit open for snow to accumulate. That is what did in the C Dory 25 which I owned.

When you build the extension to the cabin and side curtains, you will have zippers to attatch the pieces to the Bimini. Make sure that the canvas worker makes allowance for those. In other words, design the entire top now. In the case of "Thataway"--the canvas worker came back to the boat a number of times to get it "right". It helps if the boat is at the shop, or the canvas worker has ready access.

Yellowstone · Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2010 12:48 am Post subject:

Lucky Boy - My comments will only have relevance if your area in the winter experiences high winds from time to time. A full Sunbrella custom cover will show chafe after a season of winter wind in Montana. Wind may not be a problem where you live. I have evolved to another system here. A slanting Sunbrella cockpit cover keeps the snow out of the cockpit but not out of the well. I purchase a good quality 24' canvas for cuddy models and stretch it from the forward railing over the engine. Costs about $150 and last for about 4-5 seasons. Better than tearing apart a $1300 full cover. Keeps the sun off the top and most of the sides.
But as I said my experience may not be relevant . John

hardee · Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2010 1:04 am Post subject:

I would add that in most any outdoor storage situation, a cover should include the OB well and maybe even the power heads. JMHO.

Harvey
SleepyC Moon

richnkay · Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2010 5:30 pm Post subject:

Another relatively inexpensive canvas item to think of is a windlass cover, if you have a windlass mounted of course. For just a few bucks more this summer my canvas maker crafted an engine cover and the windlass cover in extra Sunbrella that matched the camperback he made. The windlass cover has kept water out of the chain locker on rainy days.
Rich.

Lucky Day · Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2010 6:18 pm Post subject:

Thanks for this great feedback! I'm going to blend all this information together and come up with a solution that will fit my situation. Many many thanks, y'all.

bridma · Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2013 6:16 pm Post subject: Questions for canvas maker

So for all you boats with a full cockpit canvas cover, I assume you take it all off when laid up for winter outdoors? Does the frame work come apart easy? What do you do then, put a sloper back cover on or a tarp? I guess you need the poppers to line up to interchange the covers.
At present I just have the sloper back canvas.

Martin.

nimrod · Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2013 6:30 pm Post subject:

4 machine screws attach my SS frame to the boat. I remove all the sunbrella panels and then remove the screws and the SS frame. I store the frame in my outside storage shed, the sunbrella in my workshop. I have a sunbrella cover for the boat that keeps the weather off when I'm not using it.

It takes about 30 min to take the camperback off, same to re-install.

jd

thataway · Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2013 10:11 pm Post subject:

No snow. But I have a full boat cover for storage year around, when not in use. The full cover, does come to the back--but not include the outboard--separate cover there. Not sure that is the best way to go, but I feel that you can tension the back cover more with the cover coming using to the base of the outboard. I might feel differently if we had snow.

I have one screw on each side to remove the entire bow set. A quick release pin on each up vertical support bar. Takes about 2 minutes to remove the bows--and stow them below the trailer.