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bshillam



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 2:20 pm    Post subject: $8000 for new gas tanks, Reply with quote

Well, it had to happen. I knew going in that it needed new tanks. I knew the price prior to buying that they needed replacement. It's not a C-dory, my new to me Tollycraft needs new tanks. Both inboard engines need to be removed and the old tanks pulled and replaced. Ouch, when I write the check for this repair I will really miss my two previous CD's. However the good news, while the Tolly is in the shop the owner agreed to re gel coat all the decks as they are in poor shape and needing some attention. He is doing this as a winter special, best price and comes highly recommended!
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 3:12 pm    Post subject: $8000 for new gas tanks, Reply with quote

How many gallons are your new tanks each. Are your boats engines diesel or gas?
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 4:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do they come with a lifetime guarantee of fuel fills Question Laughing

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 5:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ouch. Tolly's weren't known for having tank problems like many of the Taiwan boats. I'm in the process of buying a larger boat and it's amazing how many have tank problems and how expensive the repairs can be.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 6:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry to hear about that.

Also to hijack the thread a bit, Watchu buy in' Sam?? Nice 62 Nordhavnn. Hmmm? The Force is strong with you. Go for the heated leather seats young man! George Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 6:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Boat old enough could have had ternplate or galvanized steel, neither type allowable for gasoline nowadays. Aluminum new ones? Not cheap if custom fabricated.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 8:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ghone wrote:
Sorry to hear about that.

Also to hijack the thread a bit, Watchu buy in' Sam?? Nice 62 Nordhavnn. Hmmm? The Force is strong with you. Go for the heated leather seats young man! George Thumbs Up


No deal yet, but negotiating for a Nordic Tug 37. If we can't agree on price or something comes up at survey, there'll be another boat...

The 62 Nordhavn is my dream boat. Maybe someday.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 8:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice boat! You'll be the mothership for gatherings! Fireplace and easy chair. Captain Sam. Go for it
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 13, 2013 10:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

To remove a single tank, remove parts from one engine--and remove the other engine, rebuild floors afterward, remove the one tank, which was leaking when the surveyor missed the leak--two days before (beach towels stuffed up under the tank). New aluminum tank--300 gallons--cost $13,000 about 15 years ago. The second tank had to be replaced about 6 years later. (Steel tanks) The $6,000 I am sure is a shock--but not to be un-expected. For two tanks, in a larger boat that sounds like a fair deal.

If you are going to keep the boat, it is worth having the external part of the tank coal tar epoxy treated. Good luck on the repairs--good to get it done!

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 13, 2013 10:38 pm    Post subject: Your questions Reply with quote

To answer your questions,
both engines have to come out. They are 5.7L Crusaders. Each tank is about 100 gallons and they are starboard of the starboard engine and port of the port engine. IE saddle tanks. The reason why they have to be replaced is a tank cleaning company installed port access on the side of each tank. Now they look clean and nice, not leaking - however the Surveyor and insurance company want them out. Federal law prohibits any opening in a gas tank other than the top most portion of the tank. These are not - as most have agreed the risk is too high. Needless to say I will be replacing hoses, belts, etc on the engine when they are out and having new fuel lines and vent lines put in when they are replaced. It's expected to take about 80 hours for them to be completely replaced. The estimate on the tanks is $1700 just for the tanks.
Either way I'll be motoring and sleeping better at night knowing that both are new and all the fuel lines/vent lines have been replaced.
Heck, I'll get working fuel gauges out of the deal too! The PO just used flowscans to determine whether there was enough gas. I just don't care for that. Now I'll have two systems to gauge how much gas I have.

The price of the replacements was taken out of the purchase as this was found during the survey. However, writing a check for this amount on a boat gets me missing both my previous CDs.

At the same time I am also having new decks laid down. Old gel coat ground out and new gel resprayed. The shop comes highly recommended by previous customers. I also have another down the road purchase planned for a hard cockpit cover that they make for this boat.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 11:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds like a good reason--and great plan.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 6:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shouldn't the tank cleaning company that installed the additional side access ports be aware of any such related Federal restrictions? I would think a company that would undertake such a job would need to be somewhat clued into relevant government (Federal, State, or county) regulations.

Great this was found by the marine surveyor and good thing the selling price on the boat was reduced to cover that work.

Good luck w/ the move up to the larger boat!

Take care,
Dan, Tanya, and Hannah on C-Renity
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