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starcrafttom
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Sea Wolf
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Tom-
Looks like 150 or 250 feet long, not 50, as stated in the article you linked:
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.. spotted the 50-foot-long vessel
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Find a buyer that wants to sink it and turn it into a fishing reef, after finding a suitable towing service for a reasonable fee (even your CD26 will need some help, I'll bet.)
Would it all be economically feasible?
How far would the tow have to be?
Who knows until you investigate?
How would a municipality get authorization (and from who) to place it on the sea bed?
Lots'a issues, of course! 
Joe.  
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Captains Cat
Joined: 03 Nov 2003
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City/Region: Cod Creek>Potomac River>Chesapeake Bay
State or Province: VA
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| Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 1:53 pm Post subject: |
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I'll go when it gets a little closer as long as I don't have to help repaint it!! 
Charlie
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Matt Gurnsey
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| Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 3:31 pm Post subject: |
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I'm thinking scrap steel. What's that beastie weigh?
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srbaum
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| Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 4:25 pm Post subject: Vessel Adrift Disposal |
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Getting rid of old ships is very expensive, even if they are sunk as a reef, as they are usually filled with environmental elements that have to be removed and disposed of individually with personnel and equipment that is certified for the effort. Items that come to mind include, but are not limited to asbestos, lead paint and PCB electrical items. If the vessel is to be sunk, it also must be clean of all lubricates (tanks, machinery and bilges) as well.
Five years ago, while working on a project to install a new crane on one of my vessels at work, I found a (very) small area on the crane deck that had lead paint in it...it was a show stopper that cost upwards of $30K to dispose of.
In the Coast Guard, I was involved in removing asbestos and lead paint from ships in the late 70's and the cost even back then was breathtaking.
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starcrafttom
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| Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 6:21 pm Post subject: |
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I knew it was 50 meters not 50 ft. reporters
some one will go get it I hope. I don't want it just wandering around to end up on a coastal beach. I think it would be cool if someone, coast guard?, would place a gps tracker on it so I could follow it online.
It just may float down the coast and then back out to sea again. Should be a interesting summer on the coast. |
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Sea Wolf
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| Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 6:41 pm Post subject: |
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| starcrafttom wrote: | I knew it was 50 meters not 50 ft. reporters
some one will go get it I hope. I don't want it just wandering around to end up on a coastal beach. I think it would be cool if someone, coast guard?, would place a gps tracker on it so I could follow it online.
It just may float down the coast and then back out to sea again. Should be a interesting summer on the coast. |
Tom-
It should come down the West Coast with the Japanese/California Current.
Maybe they'll see it on the trip to Catalina this summer???
Let's see: "The average speed of the general California Current is about 1/4 to 1/2 knot (12.5-25 cm/sec) . and the distance from where it's at off the B.C coast to Catalina Island is
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DaveS
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| Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 6:50 pm Post subject: |
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It would seem to me that when this vessels are eventually boarded there will be some poignant discoveries made. (As in those who never managed to escape the vessels). Presumably all these vessels were at some time searched for survivors, but one never knows.....time will tell.
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Walldog
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City/Region: Port Isabel
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| Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 6:59 pm Post subject: |
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It may make down here to Brownsville to be wrecked. The company that does it here at the port was involved in a law suit recently trying to buy a ship up in the PNW to tow for salvage. Maybe they will give you a finders fee 
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hardee
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| Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 12:04 am Post subject: |
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Tom,
A SPOT device would be a credible tracking device. Good for 1-2 months only though, but would give a tracking signal that could be traced on the SPOT web site.
Hey, it is salvageable, all you have to do is get there, tow it and then the work begins. I've seen worse looking stuff on the hard at some of the boat yards around.
Harvey
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jennykatz
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| Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 9:17 am Post subject: salvage |
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The Owners have been notified in Japan so they might salvage or fix it ? who Knows
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starcrafttom
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| Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 12:05 pm Post subject: |
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| I wonder how much diesel is on board?? |
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TyBoo
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B~C
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| Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 9:27 am Post subject: |
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I'll bet the Coasties just love that kind of duty...where do I sign up?
A company that I worked for many years ago was looking at busting up an aircraft carrier, they determined that if they paid as low as a dollar for the thing they still wouldn't make any money due to the enviro issues
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DaveS
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| Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 1:40 pm Post subject: |
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| starcrafttom wrote: | | I wonder how much diesel is on board?? |
I just read an AP article that stated there are 2,000 gallons of diesel on board and that it is believed that it is best to sink the ship in the open water rather than it cause an accident at sea (ie: another vessel colliding with the unlighted vessel). Additionally, it is believed that the fuel will dissipate best in the open water. |
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