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ferret30
Joined: 22 Mar 2011 Posts: 569 City/Region: Seattle
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2006
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Lily Pad
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Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2011 2:40 pm Post subject: Sta-Bil red/blue question |
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Should Sta-Bil Marine Formula Ethanol Treatment (blue) be used in conjunction with Sta-Bil Fuel Stabilizer (red), or is blue basically red with ethanol treatment?
I bought blue and red last night at O'Reillys but I realized later (even though it's not clear from the labels) that blue + red might be unnecessary.
Also, do any Seattle area brats know if ethanol free gas is sold around here, preferably at gas stations, not marinas? |
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Will-C
Joined: 21 Aug 2007 Posts: 2476 City/Region: Temple
State or Province: PA
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Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2011 3:45 pm Post subject: Sta-Bil red/blue question |
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I just use the Blue Marine formula in everything. I have a couple of different gas cans around the house. I treat all incoming gas to the homestead with blue stabil, I use it with my two stroke mix as well. The boat gets the usual 1 oz per every ten gallons and the heavier recommended dosage for the three months that the boat sits. Since I have used it no gas related problems. I also add Yamaha Ring Free or any other decarbonizer is recommended at each fill up. They say the a carbon build up can build up near the top of the cylinders and break piston rings. It also helps prevent carbon build up on the back side of intake and exhaust valves. The red stabil is for storage for non ethanol gas I believe.
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JamesTXSD
Joined: 01 Mar 2005 Posts: 7446 City/Region: from island boy to desert dweller
State or Province: AZ
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Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2011 5:12 pm Post subject: |
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Blue Sta-bil only for our use. Two different boat places here no longer sell the red, saying that it is useless with ethanol. We use the blue for storage and occasionally put it in when gassing up. |
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thataway
Joined: 02 Nov 2003 Posts: 20841 City/Region: Pensacola
State or Province: FL
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Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2011 5:47 pm Post subject: |
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I am not sure the red is useless, but I use it only for non ethanol fuel. For 10% ethanol, I use the blue--but that is in generators etc.... _________________ Bob Austin
Thataway
Thataway (Ex Seaweed) 2007 25 C Dory May 2018 to Oct. 2021
Thisaway 2006 22' CDory November 2011 to May 2018
Caracal 18 140 Suzuki 2007 to present
Thataway TomCat 255 150 Suzukis June 2006 thru August 2011
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Home port: Pensacola FL |
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DaveS
Joined: 01 Nov 2003 Posts: 3204 City/Region: Arlington
State or Province: WA
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Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2011 8:05 pm Post subject: |
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I use Sta Bil Blue. Arlington Fuel Stop on the West Side of I-5 at Island Crossing (Exit 208) still serves non-ethanol. They still take care of the farmers in the community. _________________ Dave S.
"Sea Shift"
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ferret30
Joined: 22 Mar 2011 Posts: 569 City/Region: Seattle
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Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2011 8:33 pm Post subject: |
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I found 2 Spirit stations in Seattle that supposedly carry E0 (see pure_gas.org). I need to figure out which one (if any) are big enough to drive a truck/boat trailer through. The closest to me is a teeny tiny gas station on a corner in Ballard and I think if I drove in there with the boat next to the pump the truck would be hanging out into the street! Also, being somewhat new to trailering, I don't want to accidentally get stuck there or take out a pump/car/bike.
I'll probably stick with ethanol gas and StaBil marine until I find a good E0 source. |
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kevin ware
Joined: 28 Jun 2011 Posts: 93 City/Region: Mount Vernon
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Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2011 12:54 am Post subject: ethanol free gas |
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The quick serve mini mart and gas station on the right side about 2 miles west of the bridge in west Mount Vernon pumps only EtOH free gasoline. Price is about the same.
If you are going to Anacortes or LaConner, driving through Mount Vernon and over the bridge near the tulip smoke stack does not take you much out of your way. The West Mount Vernon Hwy. re- joins Hwy 20 just past the Skagit Regional Airport.
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cruiserlessvinny
Joined: 25 Jul 2011 Posts: 80 City/Region: Suwanee
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Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2011 6:08 am Post subject: E0 |
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Go to pure-gas.org for a list of stations that carry E0.
CV _________________ I have a classic Whaler. Now I think I want a cruiser. I'm so-o-o-o-o confused. |
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jer2
Joined: 24 Sep 2008 Posts: 40 City/Region: Burke
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Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2011 11:14 am Post subject: StaBil Products |
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12/11/11 C-Brats-
FYI...cruising down the aisle this week at my local Walmart and I studder stepped at the new lower price for blue ($5.78/8oz) & red ($5.50/8oz.) stabil products! A significant reduction for both products! Who would have guessed?
John Roark
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DaveS
Joined: 01 Nov 2003 Posts: 3204 City/Region: Arlington
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Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2011 3:04 pm Post subject: |
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John, even better news.....the directions call for fewer ounces per gallon of the blue than of the red! |
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C-Nile
Joined: 09 May 2008 Posts: 638 City/Region: Connecticut
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Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 10:51 am Post subject: |
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My brother called the manufacturer of Stabile to ask about the difference between the blue and red stabile. Apparently, they told him that both stabilize ethanol as well as gasoline, but the blue is in much higher concentration, which is why it is so much more expensive. I use only Blue Stabile now, not only for my boat, but for all my small gas motors (snowblower, lawnmower, generator.) Since I've been using Stabile, I have had no problems whatsoever with small carbureted engines. In fact, I don't even run my small engines dry for the season. My only actions are to treat the fuel with storage-level (2x) amounts of Blue Stabile, and then to start up my small engines to circulate the stabilized gasoline through the carbs about once ever 45 days, but that's it. The manufacture claims that storage levels will maintain gasoline for up to two years. For me, I have found it is very effective for at least one year. _________________ Marinaut 215 - "Betty Ann" Sept-2011
CD 16 Cruiser "C-Nile" Sold 06/2011 |
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T.R. Bauer
Joined: 17 Nov 2007 Posts: 1741 City/Region: Wasilla
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Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 2:39 pm Post subject: |
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I have run the red stuff for years in my boat and it has come out of winter just fine. The blue stuff is better if you store your boat outdoors in a wet environment, or using ethanol (none here in this part of AK), but mine is out in the heated shop..... No worries or concerns so far. |
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localboy
Joined: 30 Sep 2006 Posts: 4656 City/Region: Lake Stevens via Honolulu
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Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 6:54 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | I just use the Blue Marine formula in everything. |
Ditto. Since it came out, I no longer use the red. _________________ "We can go over there...behind the 'little one'....."
Wife to her husband pointing @ us...from the bow of their 50-footer; Prideaux Haven 2013 |
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