honda motors

Sea Wolf · Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 11:34 am Post subject:

The super expensive primer bulbs are mandated by EPA regulations of some type that limit the amount of gas vapors that can escape through the primer bulb walls, so the new technology='s -$$$ to you! (read - as "minus" !

I've said this before, but what a 25 cent stainless bolt costs is dependent on where and what you buy it for:

Indust. Surplus store $0.08
Hardware store: 0.25
Automotive store 0.50
Marine Supply 1.00
Civil Aviation Supply 4.00
Military Contact 8.00
Medical Eqpt. Parts 12.00
NASA Jobber 25.00
Russian Black Market Nuclear Device Parts Supply ???

Makes you want to buy that replacement bulb from Walmart for $3.79, eh?

Joe. Laughing

BrentB · Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 12:23 pm Post subject:

m2cw
Any item which is proprietary, there are few price controls

Matt Gurnsey · Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 1:48 pm Post subject:

As far as fuel line and component pricing, Yamaha has just announced a deep reduction in prices. The new style components are still more epensibve than the old.

The problem is that the ethanol molecule is so much smaller than a gasoline molecule so it passes more easily through the old materials.

BrentB · Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 5:08 pm Post subject:

[quote="Sea Wolf"]The super expensive primer bulbs are mandated by EPA regulations of some type that limit the amount of gas vapors that can escape through the primer bulb walls, so the new technology='s -$$$ to you! (read - as "minus" !

I agree to met new CARB and EPA standards but the cost difference between Yamaha and OEM fuel bulbs is excessive m2cw

Wefings · Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 5:21 pm Post subject:

Since we are talking EPA , every new boat must have a compliant fuel system going forward with a carbon filter of some kind and non permeable tanks ,hoses and bulbs . Even the end fittings have been reengineered . My builder friends say a minimum of $250 to the cost of boat .
Brent , can you read this and interpret it for us? There will be a test on Friday.
Marc

BrentB · Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 5:50 pm Post subject:

Hi Marc

I like this reading format over the older mutiple column format and linking is great

yep that is a handful of requirements but clearer than the old days of lots of head scratching or maybe easier now that I scratched off most of my hair! This should be straight forward b/c the auto industry research. It looks doable to me!

I like this part

b) You must give us records to document your evaluation if we ask for them.
Wink

I wish documents for fuel additives we add to our gas were available.
These should be light reading after all of the sizzle is removed.

Wefings · Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 5:57 pm Post subject:

I especially liked this part ;
§ 1060.15 Do any other CFR parts apply to me?
(a) There is a separate part of the CFR that includes exhaust emission requirements for each particular application, as described in §1060.1(a). We refer to these as the exhaust standard-setting parts. In cases where an exhaust standard-setting part includes evaporative requirements, apply this part 1060 as specified in the exhaust standard-setting part, as follows:

(1) The requirements in the exhaust standard-setting part may differ from the requirements in this part. In cases where it is not possible to comply with both the exhaust standard-setting part and this part, you must comply with the requirements in the exhaust standard-setting part. The exhaust standard-setting part may also allow you to deviate from the procedures of this part for other reasons.

(2) The exhaust standard-setting parts may reference some sections of this part 1060 or may allow or require certification under this part 1060. See the exhaust standard-setting parts to determine what provisions of this part 1060 apply for these equipment types.

(b) The requirements and prohibitions of part 1068 of this chapter apply to everyone, including anyone who manufactures, imports, owns, operates, or services any of the fuel systems subject to this part 1060. Part 1068 of this chapter describes general provisions, including the following areas:

(1) Prohibited acts and penalties for engine manufacturers, equipment manufacturers, and others.

(2) Exclusions and exemptions for certain products.

(3) Importing products.

(4) Defect reporting and recall.

(5) Procedures for hearings.

(c) Other parts of this chapter apply if referenced in this part.

Marc

BrentB · Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 7:14 pm Post subject:

Dont you wish it was clear like
In Indiana, it is illegal for a liquor store to sell cold soft drinks and
liquor stores may not sell milk.