new CCA video worth watching.

starcrafttom · Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 3:25 pm Post subject: new CCA video worth watching.

cruiserlessvinny · Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 4:01 pm Post subject: hatchery salmon

Excellent video. Thanks for the information.

Got a couple of questions.
1)Do hatchery salmon reproduce?
2)If so, are their offspring considered wild salmon?

CV

starcrafttom · Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 4:21 pm Post subject:

yes they do and unless they are clipped in the hatchery yes they are wild salmon according to the law. Not all hatchery salmon are fin clipped and some of the tribal hatchery don't clip at all. I think at best its only 80% of hatchery fish are clipped and that's just in resent years. I know California in the 80's bragged about clipping 45% of the released fish.

I don't think there is a true wild strain of salmon left in the lower states and maybe not in Alaska. Almost all river systems on the west coast have had hatchery or hatchery plants at one time or another with out fin clipping. this was wide spread and lasted for over 50 years. To think that there is a salmon that does not have some hatchery blood in him is just nutty. Now what is a hatchery salmon? It's the off spring of wild salmon that was raised in a hatchery. One of the most important reforms for hatcheries is to stop using first generation hatchery fish for brood stock and only use eggs from "wild" fish.

@ C · Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 6:47 pm Post subject:

Excuse me, but what is fin clipping and what does it do?
Don't see too many - none - salmon here in the Chesapeake.
Thanks,
Bill

starcrafttom · Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 7:44 pm Post subject:

fin clipping is the removal of the adipose fin on a given fish. It is clipped off when the fish are small, smolt size. When these fish return to local waters after being in the sea for 2 to 4 years clipping allows fisherman to identify hatchery fin clipped fish from wild or non clipped fish.

@ C · Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 9:28 pm Post subject:

Thanks Tom,
Bill

@ C · Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 10:32 pm Post subject:

Duh, I should have watched the video first.
We are dealing with the same problem here in the Chesapeake Bay.
Gill nets are a deadly problem, especially when deployed illegally.
Tons of Rockfish (Striped Bass) were killed this past winter.
See attached from last winter.
http://www.bayjournal.com/article.cfm?article=4032

@ C · Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 11:05 pm Post subject:

I love my rockfish and this pisses me off.
This is only one of too many discovered last winter.
I guess I'm fired up on a Friday because the release of the
Conowingo dam upstream of the Bay has turned the Bay into
a coffee colored and appliance covered mess. PA and states north in the watershed cleaned out years of crap in 2 days.
Bill

http://www.wbaltv.com/news/26749924/detail.html

Here is what the bay looked like from the sky several days ago
before it started raining again. Click on 9-13 for the last images available.
I think I moved to the northwest this summer. Although we had a record setting July for HOT and a record setting wet September.
http://mddnr.chesapeakebay.net/NASAimagery/EyesintheSky_archive.cfm#picview

starcrafttom · Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2011 2:25 am Post subject:

the bellingham chapter of the PSA found 66 gill nets on one river. all lost or abandon. some of these nets have been here for years.

two years ago i found one here near the everett boat ram with otter in it.