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jkswor
Joined: 23 Jun 2011 Posts: 160 City/Region: tok
State or Province: AK
C-Dory Year: 2007
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Missy marie
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Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 5:50 pm Post subject: New member needing boat advice. |
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Have narrowed my choices down to include a c dory. I am interested in the 19 ft angler and the 22 ft angler or cruiser.
Live in Alaska and fish Valdez regularly. How would the 19 ft c dory do in seas above 2 ft . Will have to go outside the narrows to get to good halibut fishing which is about 10-12 miles from the harbor. Currently have a 17 ft inflatable with a 40 hp motor on it. Have been in2-3 ft seas and it is scary to say the least. Seas have to be calm for me to venture very far now.
We need a boat we can trust to not beat us to death and which has cover from the cold and rain , unlike what we now have.
The 16 ft as I have read probably would only be useful in the inlet and unsafe beyond. How would the 19 ft act. The 22 would probably work just fine inside or outside.
Just would like some opinions or first hand knowledge about them.
Thanks
Jim Swor
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starcrafttom
Joined: 07 Nov 2003 Posts: 7937 City/Region: marysville
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 1984
C-Dory Model: 27 Cruiser
Vessel Name: to be decided later
Photos: Susan E
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Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 6:16 pm Post subject: |
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C-dory boats are very comfortable in seas to 8 ft if the wavelength is long enough. yesterday I was shrimping in a 4 to 6ft swell of 8 seconds and while its not the best for standing we never felt unsafe or in danger the ride against the waves was slow,13 knots or less, but running with the swell was fine at 15 knots. any more then that and I dont want to go anyhow in any boat.
C-dorys are very good handling boats in big waves they are just not fast. If you are looking to run in those condition's at 20 knots look elsewhere and expect to pay for it to.
I have fished many days in 2 to 4 footers in comfort. you just have to decide what is the right speed and comfort level for you. a c-dory at rest, as in halibut fishing, is great. No as tipsy as a v-hull and floats like a cork. yesterday we where stern to the waves while pulling the pots and we just floated over them. not one wave broke over the stern. _________________ Thomas J Elliott
http://tomsfishinggear.blogspot.com/
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Jack in Alaska
Joined: 17 Aug 2004 Posts: 1192 City/Region: Anchorage/Ninilchik
State or Province: AK
C-Dory Year: 2005
C-Dory Model: 26 Pro Angler
Vessel Name: HIGH TIDE II
Photos: HIGH TIDE II
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Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 6:17 pm Post subject: |
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Jim,
Welcome to the C-Dory gang. You will like what you find here on the Cbrats.
My recommendation would be the 22' or a 25' if you can afford it. You have to remember these boats are flat bottom dorys and if pushed too fast will pound. I had a 22' Classic CD and it would go through Cook Inlet chop at 15-17 mph comfortably and safely. You need to always keep that in mind. It is not a speed boat or a ski boat.
When I was out looking for a cabin type boat many years ago a very wise boating friend gave me a tip that is right on and I will pass it on to you. Find the boat that you think is way more than you need and then buy the next one bigger. I have found that to be very good advice.
Good luck with your choice.
Jack in Alaska _________________ On the HIGH TIDE-II, wife Carolyn and I.....Another summer fishing on the HIGH TIDE II in the Cook Inlet at Cape Ninilchik, Alaska.
HIGH TIDE-II; 2005 26' ProAngler; 2003 200 Honda / 2009 9.9 Honda high thrust
No. CD026021I405; AK-5008-AK
MSSI No. 338143486(cancelled)
HIGH TIDE; 1983 Angler Classic 22'; 90 Honda/ 9.9 Tohatsu-sold 2009 to son Dan (flatfishfool)
Stolen & stripped in Aug. 18
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Wandering Sagebrush
Joined: 21 Jan 2005 Posts: 2784 City/Region: Northeast Oregon
State or Province: OR
C-Dory Year: 2005
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Constant Craving
Photos: Constant Craving
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Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 6:57 pm Post subject: |
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Jim, if you are primarily a fisherman, the 22 Angler would be a very good choice. The house is small, but you have a good sized cockpit for fishing/crabbing/shrimping and what ever. If you think you will be doing some cruising, look at the 22 cruiser. When I bought, it was a toss up between the 22 cruiser and a 25. The 22 was the winner. _________________ "And in the end, it's not the years in your life that count. It's the life in your years." - Abraham Lincoln |
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localboy
Joined: 30 Sep 2006 Posts: 4673 City/Region: Lake Stevens via Honolulu
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2007
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: 'Au Kai (Ocean Traveler)
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Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 7:49 pm Post subject: |
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Just spent yesterday on my buddy's Seaswirl 23' Stiper. The one advantage was the deeper V; we easily traversed consistant wind swells in the 2' range...at >25 knots! I'd kill my kidneys and the hull on our 25 at that speed, in those conditions. But his boat is nowhere as fuel effecient, nor comfortable, nor solidly built as a C-Dory. He likes to go fast and uses if primarily for fishing, crabbing etc, so it suits his needs. We wanted an all around boat that wouldn't kill us in the fuel cost dept. If you don't plan on doing much cruising and fishing is your priority, you may find a 22 Angler to your liking. See if you could hook up w/ someone for a ride/tour. Lots of Alaska Brats here. _________________ "We can go over there...behind the 'little one'....."
Wife to her husband pointing @ us...from the bow of their 50-footer; Prideaux Haven 2013 |
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tpbrady
Joined: 08 Feb 2005 Posts: 891 City/Region: Anchorage
State or Province: AK
C-Dory Year: 2005
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Bidarka II
Photos: Bidarka
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Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 1:20 am Post subject: |
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Jim,
Since you will be driving from Tok to Valdez, the choice between the 19 and 22 would seem to be the difference between spending the night in Valdez or on the boat in Sawmill Bay, Galena Bay or even Montague Island. I have done the town and the beach many times but for the last 7 years I have found I much prefer the boat. I have made the run into Valdez only once and that was for gas, Diet Coke, and bait. I think we were in town a total of 30 minutes. The run from the Narrows into town in the afternoon is nothing but a slog with the afternoon southwest winds.
I think the 22 would fit going out of Valdez into the Sound much better than a 19.
If you ever get to the big city, I think we can arrange for a ride in a 25. _________________ Tom
22 Cruiser Bidarka 2004-2009
25 Cruiser Bidarka II 2010-2013
38 Trawler Mia Terra 2012-2015
42 Nordic Tug 2015-
28 KingFisher 2009-2014
14 Jetcraft 2000-
17 Scanoe 1981- |
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jkswor
Joined: 23 Jun 2011 Posts: 160 City/Region: tok
State or Province: AK
C-Dory Year: 2007
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Missy marie
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Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 2:23 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks to those of you giving input. It has been valuable. Not quite ready yet financially, but should be by next spring. Maybe I can pick up a 22 ft for around 22k then.
Again thanks
Jim Swor |
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