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rogerbum



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 11:09 am    Post subject: Neah Bay 2011 Reply with quote

All, I'm planning a couple of trips to Neah Bay this year. The first will be June 24-26th for some king salmon and bottom fishing. The second will be from about Aug 12-21. I'll probably leave the boat out there in July/August and make a number of weekend runs out. Is anyone interested in making a gathering out of a Neah Bay trip? We did a mini gathering a couple of years ago (2 boats) but didn't really develop a full outing. Fishing locations, tips and techniques will be shared.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 11:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Roger,

Count me in this year. That week works for Caryn and I. We'll be at Chelan from Aug 14-17 and may as well take the rest of the week off and go to Neah Bay!! Smile

We have been wanting to get up there the past few years and this is the excuse we're looking for.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 10, 2011 10:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know if I'll drag my boat out there again; a lot will depend on what the price of fuel does this summer. But I'd sure love to fish out of that Tomcat if you need a deckhand.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 11, 2011 1:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Let me check with the social director, some more salmon and rock fish would be just wonderful. Doubtful I would tow the boat, would need to be a guest on the TC. Does that work?
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 3:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Since this is the first year that I have been a co-owner of a boat and not the sole owner, it's a bit harder for me to make commitments as to what space I will have for others to fish on board the Tomcat. I'm sure I'll have some space on random weekends here and there but I don't really know. Brad (the co-owner) and I will be taking his son fishing for a lot of the summer. That takes up 3 out of 4 available fishing spots so it would be better if we had a regular gather out there. However, I do recognize how much time (and money) it takes to get a boat out that way so I understand if few others want to join with their own boats.

I'm really looking forward to fishing with Brad's son. It will give me an opportunity to introduce a young man to fishing and hopefully do a better job of it than I did with my own son. I didn't have a boat when he was really young and I was probably too interested in catching fish (as opposed to making it fun), when I did get a boat. Hopefully, I can put some +'s back into the parent karma jar by doing this fishing thing right with Brad's boy.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 5:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pat and/or Rick,

If we firm up our dates (upon Admiral's approval) and you're available on the same date(s), you can always hitch a ride on C-Dancer. We're tentatively thinking Friday Aug 19th and/or Saturday Aug 20th. It would be nice to have someone on the boat who has actually taken their boat out in the open ocean. Shocked

Peter


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 6:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rogerbum wrote:
<<stuff clipped>>I'm really looking forward to fishing with Brad's son. It will give me an opportunity to introduce a young man to fishing and hopefully do a better job of it than I did with my own son. I didn't have a boat when he was really young and I was probably too interested in catching fish (as opposed to making it fun), when I did get a boat. Hopefully, I can put some +'s back into the parent karma jar by doing this fishing thing right with Brad's boy.

I hear you Roger. I tried getting my kids interested in fishing when they were young but we NEVER caught anything except at the trout farm and hence, zero interest. I guess I'll have to do a better job when the grand children come. Wink

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 10:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Let me check on that one, Peter!

Jazzmanic wrote:
Pat and/or Rick,

If we firm up our dates (upon Admiral's approval) and you're available on the same date(s), you can always hitch a ride on C-Dancer. We're tentatively thinking Friday Aug 19th and/or Saturday Aug 20th. It would be nice to have someone on the boat who has actually taken their boat out in the open ocean. Shocked

Peter
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 15, 2011 1:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jazzmanic wrote:
It would be nice to have someone on the boat who has actually taken their boat out in the open ocean.
Peter,
I'll have my boat in the ocean out of Westport before then, so if you'd like to join me and my fishing partner, you're more than welcomed. It will give you a good idea what it's all about. And Neah Bay is "easier" than Westport, relatively speaking.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 15, 2011 11:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jazzmanic wrote:
Pat and/or Rick,

If we firm up our dates (upon Admiral's approval) and you're available on the same date(s), you can always hitch a ride on C-Dancer. We're tentatively thinking Friday Aug 19th and/or Saturday Aug 20th. It would be nice to have someone on the boat who has actually taken their boat out in the open ocean. Shocked

Peter


Peter, as regards the "open ocean":

1) We'll be out there so you'll have another "safety boat" with you (we'll just have to make sure we go out at similar times or meet in a defined location).
2) Most days in July and August, the ocean is actually nicer than the Strait of Juan de Fuca. The strait has a lot of current and tends to funnel the westerly wind a bit. The ocean can be like a pond when the strait is a little bumpy. The entrance to the strait is not a bit deal but is often sloppier than the ocean. You don't really know what the ocean is like until you're about a mile away from the entrance to the strait. E.g. don't let the mile near the entrance convince you that it's too nasty to fish on the outside.
3) I've had you on my 22 in the open ocean so you know what it's like or can be like. E.g. you'll have someone in your boat (YOU) who has been on a 22 in the open ocean.
4) I must admit I was a bit fearful of going into the ocean the first few times I did it. After that, I learned what it was like and how to correlate the wind, wave height, wave period reports with what the water will look like. Now it doesn't bother me at all. I just don't go into the ocean when the water is nasty. Simple.

Now as for Westport being easier than Neah Bay..... Neah doesn't have a bar to cross so it's almost never as nasty at the end of the Strait as it can be at Westport with a good outgoing tide. Also, there's a lot more structure in the waters around Neah Bay that provide upwellings and good rockfish habitat. Hence I think it's a lot easier to locate fish at Neah Bay than at Westport (especially without other boats telling you where the fish are).
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 15, 2011 12:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

C-Dawg wrote:
Jazzmanic wrote:
It would be nice to have someone on the boat who has actually taken their boat out in the open ocean.
Peter,
I'll have my boat in the ocean out of Westport before then, so if you'd like to join me and my fishing partner, you're more than welcomed. It will give you a good idea what it's all about. And Neah Bay is "easier" than Westport, relatively speaking.

Rick,

I'd like to take you up on your offer. PM me when you have some dates.

Peter
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 15, 2011 12:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rogerbum wrote:
Jazzmanic wrote:
Pat and/or Rick,

If we firm up our dates (upon Admiral's approval) and you're available on the same date(s), you can always hitch a ride on C-Dancer. We're tentatively thinking Friday Aug 19th and/or Saturday Aug 20th. It would be nice to have someone on the boat who has actually taken their boat out in the open ocean. Shocked

Peter


Peter, as regards the "open ocean":

1) We'll be out there so you'll have another "safety boat" with you (we'll just have to make sure we go out at similar times or meet in a defined location).
2) Most days in July and August, the ocean is actually nicer than the Strait of Juan de Fuca. The strait has a lot of current and tends to funnel the westerly wind a bit. The ocean can be like a pond when the strait is a little bumpy. The entrance to the strait is not a bit deal but is often sloppier than the ocean. You don't really know what the ocean is like until you're about a mile away from the entrance to the strait. E.g. don't let the mile near the entrance convince you that it's too nasty to fish on the outside.
3) I've had you on my 22 in the open ocean so you know what it's like or can be like. E.g. you'll have someone in your boat (YOU) who has been on a 22 in the open ocean.
4) I must admit I was a bit fearful of going into the ocean the first few times I did it. After that, I learned what it was like and how to correlate the wind, wave height, wave period reports with what the water will look like. Now it doesn't bother me at all. I just don't go into the ocean when the water is nasty. Simple.

Now as for Westport being easier than Neah Bay..... Neah doesn't have a bar to cross so it's almost never as nasty at the end of the Strait as it can be at Westport with a good outgoing tide. Also, there's a lot more structure in the waters around Neah Bay that provide upwellings and good rockfish habitat. Hence I think it's a lot easier to locate fish at Neah Bay than at Westport (especially without other boats telling you where the fish are).

Roger,

You're right, I do remember my trip with you out of Neah Bay. I remember mostly the huge roller coaster-like swells in the strait and that the ocean was fairly flat albeit foggy. I also remember the "epic" fishing day (for me) where we probably caught 20 silvers, kept 6 hatchery and I crackered a big king. I have a lot more experience and confidence in my boat handling abilities since then and the open ocean thing is probably one of the few things I haven't yet experienced as captain on C-Dancer. It sounds like a blast that's why I'm going to really try and give it a go this August.

Peter
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 15, 2011 11:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rogerbum wrote:
Now as for Westport being easier than Neah Bay..... Neah doesn't have a bar to cross so it's almost never as nasty at the end of the Strait as it can be at Westport with a good outgoing tide. Also, there's a lot more structure in the waters around Neah Bay that provide upwellings and good rockfish habitat. Hence I think it's a lot easier to locate fish at Neah Bay than at Westport (especially without other boats telling you where the fish are).
Yep, that's what I was getting at. Any bar can get pretty nasty depending on the tide, so without a bar to cross at Neah, it's pretty cool. Plus, you don't have to time your fishing to crossing the bar; you can head out anytime.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 4:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just a reminder. I'm heading out there this Friday AM and will be fishing through next Sat. If anyone is in the area, give me a holler on the radio or via PM.

Peter - are you still planning on coming out? If so, I'll make sure I have some good wine with me AND I'll even save a little for you and Caryn to drink Wink
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 12:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry Roger. Change of plans for that week. Good luck out there. We'll just have to share some wine on the hard later this year. Thumbs Up
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