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Grumpy
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 Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 6:30 am Post subject: |
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Jim,
That is impressive (the  as well ) but just as a matter of interest why do you have different orientation on the I-pad vs the Raymachine?
I must admit I tend to do the same with my Garmin vs Ray with one on close up/heading up so it looks like what I see out of the window and the other on wide scale N.up just for orientation in the same way I would look at a chart 'cos that's what my brain remembers when driving around islands etc.
(I hope that doesn't restart the old argument)
Just wondering if you use the same logic??
BTW that is where our new 30lb pup sits so I need all the visibility I can get 
M
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JamesTXSD
Joined: 01 Mar 2005
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| Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 8:17 am Post subject: |
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Hi Merv,
Ah, the one drawback (my perspective) of the iPad/Navionics set-up is the North Up orientation. If using just one chartplotter, I prefer Course Up; when using two plotters, I set one each way. Not a deal-breaker, considering price and convenience. I know the iNavX app allows either orientation, but Navionics was out there first and that's what I have on the iPad. I have no hands-on experience with the iNavX app.
Having a or a  up there is also helpful. 
Best wishes,
Jim
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Grumpy
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| Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 9:43 am Post subject: |
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Jim,
I assume you have the more expensive i-pad with the gps. That is approaching the cost of a cheap laptop and separate LCD screen. At least for now.
Might change when droid seriously gets after them this year. 
Hope you guys make it up here again someday.
Take care.
M & K |
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centerisland
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| Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 9:59 am Post subject: |
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Interesting - the complete regs are here:
http://laws.justice.gc.ca/eng/SOR-95-149/page-1.html
You can use ENC charts, if you have "back-up arrangements". It even goes into the what scale is required! The only saving grace for us small boat owners is this:
| Quote: | (2) The master and owner of a ship of less than 100 tons are not required to have on board the charts, documents and publications referred to in subsection (1) if the person in charge of navigation has sufficient knowledge of the following information, such that safe and efficient navigation in the area where the ship is to be navigated is not compromised:
(a) the location and character of charted
(i) shipping routes,
(ii) lights, buoys and marks, and
(iii) navigational hazards; and
(b) the prevailing navigational conditions, taking into account such factors as tides, currents, ice and weather patterns. |
As the holder of a USCG 100 ton Master License (who's boated in Canada for 30 years) I'm a bit embarassed that I wasn't aware of these regs.
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JamesTXSD
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| Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 10:25 am Post subject: |
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| Grumpy wrote: | Jim,
I assume you have the more expensive i-pad with the gps. That is approaching the cost of a cheap laptop and separate LCD screen. At least for now.
Might change when droid seriously gets after them this year.
Hope you guys make it up here again someday.
Take care.
M & K |
Hi Merv,
For anyone who wants a true GPS function, the 3G version iPad is the way to go. The wifi only model does not have an internal GPS chip. That was the deciding factor for me in choosing the 3G model. I have not used and have no intention of using the AT&T connection, but it was worth the additional $ to get the GPS function.
No doubt, based on the success of the iPad, there will be many tablet options this year. The Samsung Galaxy is being sold through Verizon, but I have no need for another phone base device (and fee). As it is, we use the Mifi with the iPad (and did so long before that was an option with Verizon). Beyond the GPS functions, the iPad is an information and entertainment device. It doesn't replace our laptops, since it doesn't have full-featured software programs such as Photoshop... but, you can download photos and have basic imaging apps. What it does SO much better than a laptop: portability. You can hand it back and forth. I can sit in a chair, lounge on the couch, or even comfortable read with it in bed... I don't need to be in a "laptop position" to use it. The apps are the icing on the cake, with fast weather, eReader, internet, e-mail, etc, etc. I've not been able to get comfortable with nav software on a laptop on the boat... finding the right position, access (needing a mouse to control the software), etc.; with the iPad, you just pick it up and use it... hand it to the first mate... take it out in the cockpit... no wires. Easy.
I don't recommend one of these for everyone, but if you see the above usage fits your style, why put it off? Yes, they will likely get cheaper and gain features... just like every electronic device. Wait, and in the meantime, you don't get to use it.
Did you give up your 8-track, yet? 
Best wishes,
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Grumpy
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| Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 10:42 am Post subject: |
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8 Track? Yup but I bet there are still some tapes lying around in that trash dump area full of "stuff" that we laughingly call a Garage. Along with piles of printed photographs and 35mm film negatives and stoopid 8 film.........
It's cabin fever time up here as you can tell by some of the posts
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Grumpy
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| Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 11:38 am Post subject: |
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Jim,
I know nearly everything in Texas is bigger but I have just posted a picture in the Kingfisher album of 1/2 of the display I am currently using to plan one of this year's adventures. It is a work in progress but Dragons are Red, Marina's are Green, Anchorages will be yellow etc etc.
I will try to insert it below but if the cyberglue does not work you know where to find it.
[img]http://www.c-brats.com/modules.php?set_albumName=Kingfisher&op=modload&name=gallery&file=index&include=view_album.php[/img]
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thataway
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| Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 5:52 pm Post subject: |
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To answer the question about two chart plotters and scale--I use one a a longer range--about 6 miles and one at 1 or so mile; Both plotters will be heading up.
When I do planing, then I do North up, but not underway.
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JamesTXSD
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| Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 5:53 pm Post subject: |
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Here ya go...
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