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kevrangray
Joined: 31 Aug 2010 Posts: 120 City/Region: Shingletown
State or Province: CA
C-Dory Year: 2005
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: C-Chief
Photos: C-Chief
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Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 12:00 pm Post subject: Wrangler pulling a C-Dory |
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I recently purchased a 4 cylinder Jeep Wrangler and was curious as to if anybody has ever used one to pull there C-Dory. The specs of the Jeep and C-Dory are below.
C-Dory 22' Cruiser
90HP Honda
9HP Kicker
Single Axle Trailer
Jeep Wrangler
4 Cylinder
33" Tires
4:88 Gears
Dana 35 in Rear
Dana 30 in Front _________________ Kevin and Randi Gray
My biggest worry is that my wife (when I'm dead) will sell my fishing gear for what I said I paid for it. ~Koos Brandt |
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T.R. Bauer
Joined: 17 Nov 2007 Posts: 1808 City/Region: Wasilla
State or Province: AK
C-Dory Year: 1993
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: C-Whisperer
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Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 12:42 pm Post subject: |
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I have towed my cd 22 with my full sized bronco. It will do it, but ultimately what happens is you get the tail wagging the dog effect, and it gets worse the faster you go. Without questioning, your 33 inch tires will accentuate this. I suspect it is because of the short wheelbase and I think if you went freeway speeds, had some ruts due to studs and trucks, and some wind, I think you'd end up in the ditch wheels up. The wrangler will probably be about the same or worse and and gutless as hell. |
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kevrangray
Joined: 31 Aug 2010 Posts: 120 City/Region: Shingletown
State or Province: CA
C-Dory Year: 2005
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: C-Chief
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Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 12:46 pm Post subject: |
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Makes sense. I have been pulling it with a F350 and don't really even notice it back there. I think that I will just continue using the truck to pull it and the Jeep for the mud holes.
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Walldog
Joined: 03 Jan 2009 Posts: 334 City/Region: Port Isabel
State or Province: TX
C-Dory Year: 2014
C-Dory Model: R-27 Tug
Vessel Name: Willie's Tug
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Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 4:40 pm Post subject: |
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kevrangray wrote: | Makes sense. I have been pulling it with a F350 and don't really even notice it back there. I think that I will just continue using the truck to pull it and the Jeep for the mud holes.
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Good Thinking.
Don't ask me how I know this. _________________ Walldog aka Herb Stark
2014 R31 Tug "Willie's Tug"
Port Isabel TX/Ballard WA
http://walldogsjourneys.blogspot.com |
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Sam Walker
Joined: 26 Mar 2004 Posts: 196 City/Region: Wherever the RV is today
State or Province: SD
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Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 10:23 pm Post subject: |
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I have never towed a 22 Cruiser. However, I did tow a McGregor 222 (Approx. 2500#) w/ my wife's 1991 Wrangler w/ the 6 cyl and auto w/ stock tires to and from Folsom Lake (12 miles each way). Single axle and no trailer brakes. I never went on the freeway and the max speed was 50 mph. The boat and trailer pushed the Wrangler all over the place and stopping was a true adventure.
Given that the 22 and trailer are at least 1500# more and you have 33's, which will indeed exorbate the handling issues, there is no way I would ever tow the Cruiser w/ the Wrangler except to move it around the yard.
Sticking w/ the Ford is the only option IMHO or NSHO.  _________________ Sam on C's The Day or maybe Marinauty (Someday)
It does not matter how many moments that you take a breath, It is how many moments take your breath away. |
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Chester
Joined: 04 Sep 2006 Posts: 1176 City/Region: home
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2005
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Sold to lovely couple
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Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 12:44 am Post subject: |
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I've owned a modified Wrangler. Maybe tow on streets but stay the hell off the highway. The real problem isn't the serious lack of power, inadequate trailer hitch or lightweight rearend, it's the lack of control. You will be a danger to others as well as yourself. |
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Swee Pea
Joined: 02 Nov 2003 Posts: 405 City/Region: Bath
State or Province: NC
C-Dory Year: 2004
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Swee Pea
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Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 9:56 am Post subject: |
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I owned a 2001 4 Cylinder Jeep Wrangler. I would not tow anything with that vehicle. It has trouble getting up a steep hill without pulling something behind it.
It's not built for towing. Many years ago, when I lived in Simi Valley, CA, I knew a guy who towed a small trailer/camper behind his 6 cylinder Wrangler. A gust of wind got hold of him on the Freeway and that was it. Out of control and rolled everything. Lucky he was wearing a seat belt and had the roll bar in the Wrangler. He lived to talk about it.
I have since sold the Wrangler and bought a Ford Escape. I tow my 22' C Dory up the street to the Honda Dealer. Thats about it. At it supposedly has a 5000# tow rating. Its not the motor in the vehicle (V6) as it is putting stress and strain on the transmission. I never considered towing anything with the Wrangler, don't even know what its tow rating is. I would be suprised if it was very much.
I originally towed my 22 with a Dodge Dakota V6 4WD. It towed OK, but took some time getting up hills. Sought the advice of a transmission specialist in town. He advised not to tow to the top of the ratings. Sold the truck and got a V8 Ford F150. As been said, don't even know the 22 is behind me.
Just my 2 cents. The Wrangler is a fun little vehicle - but it is what it is.
John
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Cheers
Joined: 31 Oct 2003 Posts: 236 City/Region: Vancouver
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 1984
C-Dory Model: 22 Angler
Vessel Name: Cheers
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Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 6:03 pm Post subject: |
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I own a 6 CYL Wrangler. I've towed a small trailer taking stuff to the Dump; but NOTHING else - nor will I. That's what the Grand Cherokee is for. _________________ Bob Bilyou, Cheers© |
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Fun Patrol
Joined: 01 Nov 2003 Posts: 75 City/Region: Hemet
State or Province: CA
C-Dory Year: 1989
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Fun Patrol
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Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 9:24 pm Post subject: |
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I own an 04 Rubicon that I only use for a yard tug. It's totally unsafe to tow my (4200# w/trailer) 22 past the driveway. I have towed with my 91 Cherokee with essentially the same 6-cylinder 4.0 engine and auto trans, BUT..the short-wheelbase wranglers are way too short, and 97 and later models have an all-coil suspension. Many call them "Slinkys". That soft terrain compliance (and articulation with a lift) is great for crawling over rocks, but a disaster on the hiway. Go for something long, heavy and powerful. My 32 ft motorhome works great.
Roy |
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T.R. Bauer
Joined: 17 Nov 2007 Posts: 1808 City/Region: Wasilla
State or Province: AK
C-Dory Year: 1993
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: C-Whisperer
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Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 11:35 pm Post subject: |
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Fun Patrol wrote: | I own an 04 Rubicon that I only use for a yard tug. It's totally unsafe to tow my (4200# w/trailer) 22 past the driveway. I have towed with my 91 Cherokee with essentially the same 6-cylinder 4.0 engine and auto trans, BUT..the short-wheelbase wranglers are way too short, and 97 and later models have an all-coil suspension. Many call them "Slinkys". That soft terrain compliance (and articulation with a lift) is great for crawling over rocks, but a disaster on the hiway. Go for something long, heavy and powerful. My 32 ft motorhome works great.
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Roy,
I tow my CD 22 with my 25 foot class C all the time. They are great tow rigs. Not the easiest on gas, but when I tow with the motorhome I am not planning to spend days, but weeks. The motorhome makes a great base camp. I really don't even like towing my CD 22 with my full size bronco due to the short wheel base. It is fine going less than 45-50 mph or so and fine for duty to the local lakes. However, on the highway the boat really pushes it around alot (even with the 7800 pound tow rating it is unsafe) and a wrangler would just be a joke in my opinion. I can't imagine what it would be like....
Tim |
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