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Pat Anderson
Joined: 02 Nov 2003 Posts: 8556 City/Region: Birch Bay, WA
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2005
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Daydream
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Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 3:17 pm Post subject: Can You Test for a Bad Cell in a Battery? |
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OK, Wally World replaced the big Maxx 29 deep cycle marine battery in mid-July. This battery charges up to 12.5 or whatever, but it drops overnight to 12.1 with virtually no load except the 80 milliamp fan on the Airhead. Don't run the fridge any more when the engine is not running. Not a satisfactory situation at all...so, is there some way to test this sucker to see if it has a bad cell or something? _________________
DAYDREAM - CD25 Cruiser
CRABBY LOU - CD16 Angler (sold 2020)
Pat & Patty Anderson, C-Brat #62!
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BrentB
Joined: 15 Jul 2006 Posts: 4420 City/Region: Greenwood
State or Province: IN
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Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 3:36 pm Post subject: |
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yes take back to Walmart and request a battery load test or if
you have a battery hydrometer, test each cell. even the cheapie ones with the floating balls works well enough to detect a bad or dead cells
I purchased load tester (carbon pile) from Harbor Freight and used a 20% off coupon from the ad and also received a free LED flashlight with batteries. It made my day _________________ Brent Barrett |
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Sea Wolf
Joined: 01 Nov 2003 Posts: 8650 City/Region: Redding
State or Province: CA
C-Dory Year: 1987
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Sea Wolf
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Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 4:21 pm Post subject: |
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Pat-
Brent's right, of course, let Wall Mart test it for a bad cell, or whatever.
A 80 milliamp draw over 10 hours is only 0.8 amp-hours, not enough to register much of any voltage drop on a 100+ amp-hr battery.
The only other possibility is that you have some other draw you haven't considered, or you're not aware of, such as an anchor light ( max. 1 amp x 10 hours = 10 amp hours), still not much of a drop (should be 12.6v).
See 95 Battery Condition and State of Charge Charts
So, unless you have a big unknown drain, the battery is faulty, and which cell or cells are bad is pretty much moot, but they can test it for a bad cells(s), and also see if it will hold a charge overnight independent of any small load.
Good Luck!
Joe.  _________________ Sea Wolf, C-Brat #31
Lake Shasta, California
 
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Matt Gurnsey Dealer
Joined: 11 Nov 2008 Posts: 1532 City/Region: Port Orchard
State or Province: WA
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Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 5:52 pm Post subject: |
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Which boat is this on, and what is the engine? Are we sure the battery is being fully charged by the engine, and not just showing a surface charge?
Just wondering, because if this is a second "bad" battery, my mind asks if there is a: poor workmanship on the battry line, or b: something not quite right with the charging system. _________________ Matt Gurnsey
Kitsap Marina
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starcrafttom
Joined: 07 Nov 2003 Posts: 7936 City/Region: marysville
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 1984
C-Dory Model: 27 Cruiser
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Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 6:12 pm Post subject: |
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pat if you are coming by this weekend on the way to the crab shack I have a load tester you can use. _________________ Thomas J Elliott
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Alyssa Jean
Joined: 02 Nov 2003 Posts: 2376 City/Region: Guemes Is.(Anacortes)
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Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 8:18 pm Post subject: |
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Matt this is on his 25 and he has a Honda 150 on it. He did replace his charger a few months ago. Heck, he will chime in here shortly. _________________ David and Kate
Alyssa Jean 16 Angler
Anna Leigh 22 Cruiser Sold 2005
Anna Leigh 25 Cruiser Sold 2014
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Pat Anderson
Joined: 02 Nov 2003 Posts: 8556 City/Region: Birch Bay, WA
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2005
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Daydream
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Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2010 1:04 pm Post subject: |
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Yes, it is the house battery on the CD25. The starting battery and the house battery both have the same charging setup, engine with voltage sensing relay when we are out running and a 20 amp Guest in the driveway. The starting battery is just fine. The Guest shows that the house battery is fully charged in the driveway. I may pick up a cheapie hydrometer and check the cells. I also might just turn everything off and put my multimeter in ammeter mode into the circuit to see if current is flowing that I am not aware of. It is such a pain to pull the battery and take it back to Walmart, I could take it down to the Model Garage in Fall City (a good, old-fashioned repair shop) and have them load test it I imagine. |
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T.R. Bauer
Joined: 17 Nov 2007 Posts: 1808 City/Region: Wasilla
State or Province: AK
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Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2010 2:17 pm Post subject: |
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Depending on where you are at, and how buried the battery is, you have already spent more time posting mesages than it takes to check the cells with a hydrometer. I think you were alluding to that too But with that said, I bought a costco battery (same maker as Walmart, Johnson Control Group), put it in the boat last year as I wanted a nice new fresh battery, and guess what, dead cell right off the shelf. So, it does happen and Johnson Control Group makes fine batteries in general. However, a battery with a dead cell and the surface charge removed should not read 12.6 volts. It should read about 10.5. Being that this is the second battery in just a month, something isn't right, I'd check everything, especially those pesky connections. |
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