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petemos



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 08, 2010 10:20 pm    Post subject: Sticking bilge pump one way valve Reply with quote

Anyone have a problem with the one-way valve that’s inline with bilge pump outlet hose? I keep having to remove the bilge pump, disconnect the hose, and blow in the line into it to free the one-way valve up. This seem to work for one day, and the next time I test the pump, it fails because the one-way valve is preventing the pump from discharging water. Do I really need this valve? Anyone have the same problem and or a fix?

Thanks Jim
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Captains Cat



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 08, 2010 11:06 pm    Post subject: Re: Sticking bilge pump one way valve Reply with quote

petemos wrote:
Anyone have a problem with the one-way valve that’s inline with bilge pump outlet hose? I keep having to remove the bilge pump, disconnect the hose, and blow in the line into it to free the one-way valve up. This seem to work for one day, and the next time I test the pump, it fails because the one-way valve is preventing the pump from discharging water. Do I really need this valve? Anyone have the same problem and or a fix?

Thanks Jim


You need it Jim. It's called a check valve and keeps water from coming back into the boat. Buy a new one, just get one in the same size as the hose. They are cheap!

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 08, 2010 11:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jim,

I am not sure what kind of check valve you have on your 2007 boat. My 2004 did not have any and I installed the ones shown in my photo album after I noticed the through hull fittings below the water during launch. This solved a problem I had with water intrusion. After installation, my boat is now dry as a bone. I have not had any problems with them.

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petemos



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 7:55 am    Post subject: Sticking bilge pump one way valve Reply with quote

That is the same valve that i have that does not work. I'll go to the store and buy a replacement today.

Thanks again Guys.

Jim
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 8:20 am    Post subject: Sticking bilge pump one way valve Reply with quote

Hi,
I just pulled mine off and connected the bilge hose direct to the thru hull. I have a 23' Venture but I can't see much water getting in the the boat thru the thru hull fitting. The little bit of water left in the hose can run back down to the bilge but the idea of that valve sticking when you want or need the bilge to pump far out weighs the need for that check valve on my boat. Everyone has their own ideas about these things. Mine was get rid of that thing.
D.D.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 8:37 am    Post subject: check valve Reply with quote

I have the 06 CC-23 and mine never came with a check valve ? I think it would be another failure waiting to happen . A little bit of water might get in but it stays in the little bilge area.
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Captains Cat



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 8:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A LOT depends on how high out of the water your overboard fitting is. If it is such that it will be submerged while your boat is heavily loaded, you should have a check valve. If water does start to come in, and you don't have a check valve, the boat will take on water progressively, and get even lower in the water. My '95 CD 22 had the overboard about 18" out of the water. No need for a check valve there.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 9:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Buy a longer discharge hose and put an anti siphon loop in it above the discharge opening in the hull.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 2:31 pm    Post subject: Sticking bilge pump one way valve Reply with quote

No one in Halifax Nova Scotia has this check value or one with the same hose dimensions. I tried to jury rig a model that was 3/4" as apposed to 1 1/8" and I got some leaks and it's just not a nice setup. I going to wait till I get back in the state and see what they have. As the cunnert outlet hose goes up and over the gas tank, i can't see me sucking any water, until i'm already sunk. I also don't like they way the current valve is situated, so in any case i'm going to re-plumb this setup.

Thanks for all the feedback.

Jim
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 5:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

from David Pascoe's web site

Syphon breaks and check valves are notoriously unreliable because of their tendency to get clogged.


http://www.yachtsurvey.com/bilge_pumps.htm

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