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breausaw
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 Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 1:20 am Post subject: |
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Since I modified my helm seat hinge so that the back lays completely flat (with cutting board attached) to extend the galley space a replacement seat has been hard to find. That extra counter space has become invaluable so finding a seat with a back that lies completely flat and meets the space requirements has been tough. I have bought a couple online but had to return, they just wouldn’t work out.
This winter I’m going to take the seat to my favorite upholstery and let him do his magic, a butt is a terrible thing to waste.
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NORO LIM
Joined: 24 Apr 2008
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City/Region: Olympia
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C-Dory Model: 23 Venture
Vessel Name: noro lim
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| Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 1:07 pm Post subject: |
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| Mike... wrote: | . . .
Would you say that the seat as well made, but that the mount was poorly made? Did you abandon the slider because of the shoddy workmanship?
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Now that you have it installed, how high is the top of the cushion from the top of the cabinet below?
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mike |
Mike,
The basic seat appears to be well made. I'm no expert. Time will tell.
The most significant workmanship problem was the bolt hole shown in my previous post. That hole is one of four holes on the bottom of the seat that receive bolts for attaching the seat to the slider, or to whatever other mounting device you use.
I think I could have fixed the stripped bolt hole and still used the slider, but for a number of reasons I decided not to. First, the usable for and aft range of the slider would be only an inch or two at best while seated in the chair - There just is not much room to play with between the sink cabinet wall and the knee space under the steering wheel. (The slider would have allowed moving the seat forward 8 inches or so when the seat was not being used, but that didn't seem worth the remaining hassles - read on.) Second, an additional calculation I had not accounted for is the release bar for operating the slider. The bar is parallel to the front edge of the seat, and actually drops slightly lower than the bottom of the slider itself. In order to allow any kind of finger space to grab the bar, the seat would have to be raised too high for steering wheel clearance. ( Again, I considered modifying the bar, but ...) Third, the slider rails are spaced far enough apart that in order to keep the seat centered on the wheel, the inboard slider would have required an extension of the mounting platform and and perhaps an additional set of holes and bolts.
In the end, I decided a solid, stationary mounting sounded pretty good.
With my prototype mounting set up, the seat top is about 7 inches above the cabinet top. (It's a little arbitrary measuring exactly the height of a contoured, bolstered, sloped surface - I measure from the top of the front center edge of an unloaded seat.) I've got about 2.5 inches of framing between the bottom of the seat and the top of the cabinet, which means I could still lower the seat by about 1.5 inches. I could probably also raise the seat by about an inch without eliminating all space between my legs and the bottom of the steering wheel.
I'm pretty comfortable with the way it is now. If I make any further adjustment, it might be down and back just a tad, but I'm going to use it for a while before I decide whether to change anything.
You've got a different boat, and maybe a different set of driver dimensions, so I don't know how useful my experience is, but I hope this gives you some things to think about.
Bill
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NORO LIM
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Sea Wolf
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| Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 11:55 am Post subject: |
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I'll try to post the photo:
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NORO LIM
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| Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 12:18 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks, Joe.
Right clicking in the edit box gave me nada this morning. Don't know what was going on.
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Mike...
Joined: 13 Dec 2008
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| Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2010 12:32 pm Post subject: |
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| NORO LIM wrote: | | Here's a link to a photo of the seat. |
Nice seat. Thanks for posting.
Didn't get the arms, eh?
And is there still enough room to get your knees under the wheel?
Given your trouble with Llebroc, I wonder if it wouldn't be better to find a upholstery place and have it custom built. Maybe there are such things as upholsterers that specialize in Marine seats?
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Doryman
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| Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2010 12:38 pm Post subject: |
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| Mike... wrote: | | Given your trouble with Llebroc, I wonder if it wouldn't be better to find a upholstery place and have it custom built. Maybe there are such things as upholsterers that specialize in Marine seats? |
I wouldn't think that there is anything specific to marine usage for reupholstering unless we are talking about an open boat, but I would like an answer to that question, also. I have a foam/upholstery shop in Bellingham that I have had do several projects for me and they said they have recovered and restuffed boat furniture, so I get the impression that it is something that can be done by any competent shop.
Warren
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NORO LIM
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| Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2010 12:53 pm Post subject: |
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| Mike... wrote: | . . .
Didn't get the arms, eh?
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And is there still enough room to get your knees under the wheel?
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mike |
Mike,
I did get the arms. So far I've decided I like the seat better without. The port side one intrudes somewhat into the center isle and would be one more thing to deal with in trying to get from the helm to the cockpit quickly. The starboard one slightly obscures my view of my throttle and trim controls. They are easy to install if I change my mind.
My legs fit easily under the wheel.
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bcarli
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| Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 10:33 pm Post subject: |
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I want to replace the seat on my cd-25 as well. There are so many options available that it's about impossible to tell what is a good seat and what is a good value. How can we know without buying one and trying it? I'm on my boat about 6 to 7 hours a day, 7 days a week and the short chop of the Straight of Juan De Fuca has about done me in. The Garelick Citation looks good but how can one tell from pictures...For me a good seat no matter what it costs will be money well spent. Anybody in cd-land have good results with a new seat for a cd-25? Whale watching and having fun...And spending lots of time on my boat.
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Captains Cat
Joined: 03 Nov 2003
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City/Region: Potomac River - Cod Creek - Chesapeake Bay
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| Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 9:11 am Post subject: |
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For those of you who worry about spending too much money on a replacement helm seat, here's an option that Don (Sneaks) came up with. May need a little padding though... 
Charlie
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patrick and linda
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| Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 3:37 pm Post subject: |
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hi charles,
love the ingenuity on this raised pilot seat, i think this would go hand in hand with a outhouse rather than dealing with plumbing issues. at some point "pride of ownership" comes into play.
best regards
pat
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Captains Cat
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| Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 6:12 am Post subject: |
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Yeah, this guy probably got tired of what that post did to his stern.... 
BTW, like your new boat name!!  |
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