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pcator



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 4:48 pm    Post subject: bottom paint Reply with quote

How long do you think you can leave a 25CD in salt water without bottom paint? I really don't want to paint the bottom but I would like to cruise a month or so.
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Sarge



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 5:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pcator,

There are a few threads on this matter you might find interesting:

http://www.c-brats.com/viewtopic.php?t=1831&highlight=petit

http://www.c-brats.com/viewtopic.php?t=10639&highlight=micron

http://www.c-brats.com/viewtopic.php?t=8141&highlight=micron

there's lots more, seems to be a pretty popular topic.

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journey on



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 6:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In North Carolina, in the summer: 1 week.

Try it with your dinghy, we did.

Boris
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Tug



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 7:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I came across this website..something different...AntiFoulingDock.com

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JamesTXSD



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 8:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are a lot of factors: area, water temp, how often the boat will be moved. You said a one month cruise; assuming you will be moving daily, that is actually better for keeping growth off. Warm temperatures seem to create more problems than colder water. Different waters seem to have different problems - slime, the furry plant stuff, and barnacles.

When we first picked up our boat, we cruised for 6 weeks in the Pacific Northwest (colder water, moving nearly everyday) and a simple rinse was all the bottom needed when we pulled out. About 10 days in the warm Gulf water and critters were already starting to attach. I pulled the boat into shallow water and scrubbed the bottom - it was good for another 10 days or so. After a few episodes of that, I pulled the boat out for a bottom job. I guess I don't understand the reluctance to bottom paint; all our boats have had it. We use an ablative paint that remains effective even when pulled out to trailer. It needed touching up after about two years of very regular use.

Yes, I've gotten paint on my hand when messing with the boat on the trailer. I use this new-fangled stuff called "soap" and it cleans right up. Wink I've had hard bottom paint sprayed on our trimaran (to keep the bottom smooth for performance), and it worked fine, too. Check with boat yards in the area you intend to cruise and see what they recommend.

If you plunk a boat in warm water for a month and don't move it, I'd expect some crud on the bottom. Run your hand on the bottom after a week or so... you can feel the slime, and you can really feel the barnacles. I've never noticed a performance hit from bottom paint, but the crud on the bottom will really cut into your efficiency.

A month of cruising sounds like fun... a little bottom scrubbing is a very small price to pay for those good times. Very Happy

Have fun!

Best wishes,
Jim B.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 9:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sea Pal and Dreamer spent 6 weeks in the Broughtons in 2008. As I recall, it took a couple of hours to clean up the accumulated growth. Nothings grows way down in the tunnel of the cat because of the lack of sunlight. It hasn't gotten to the point where bottom paint is high on my list of projects.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 20, 2010 9:50 am    Post subject: paint Reply with quote

When we lived in Bellvue WA. we moored our 25ft Seaswirl all season long with no bottom paint I would keep the boat in until Jan.1st or so then put it in in April never really a problem we used the boat every week .Once in awhile I would put on amask and clean the growth .

Now that we are in Naples Fl. Forget about it You need Bottom paint within a week or so . We use an ablative paint it seems to give us about 9months or so , We pull it out and do a touch up every 6-9 months . Our boat stays in the brackish saltwater all year long .The only downside to painting is for smaller boats (15-20ftrunabouts) it affects the resale, but on cruising boats I believe it's a plus.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 20, 2010 3:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JamesTXSD wrote:
I guess I don't understand the reluctance to bottom paint; all our boats have had it. We use an ablative paint that remains effective even when pulled out to trailer. It needed touching up after about two years of very regular use.

Yes, I've gotten paint on my hand when messing with the boat on the trailer. I use this new-fangled stuff called "soap" and it cleans right up.


Jim says it so eloquently. I think that in the GREAT Pacific Northwest, you may not need antifouling as much as elsewhere and the comments indicate as much. However, please note that people who boat south of there DO NEED IT. We left the dinghy in the Chesapeake for 2 weeks one summer and our reward was 2 hours of hard work in the sun to remove the growth.

So those of you who boat up North, please don't encourage those of us who boat in the southern climes to not use bottom paint. That's a disservice.

Boris
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