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jhayes1068
Joined: 09 Dec 2009 Posts: 110 City/Region: Farmersburg
State or Province: IN
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Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2010 2:09 pm Post subject: Former Owners of CD-16 Cruiser "Cachita" |
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I'm looking for the former owners of CD-16 Cruiser named "Cachita". In the process of looking for a c-dory to buy, I located the boat at Panhandle Powerboats in Juneau, Alaska and I would like to learn the history of the boat, condition of the boat when sold or traded. and etc. Thanks, Jim |
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Papillon
Joined: 31 Mar 2005 Posts: 949 City/Region: DeBary, Fl. *On the St. John's River*
State or Province: FL
C-Dory Year: 1993
C-Dory Model: 22 Angler
Vessel Name: Papillon
Photos: Papillon
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Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2010 3:01 pm Post subject: |
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Give Me the BoatFax Please
Forgive me, I just couldn't help myself _________________ Mike Taylor
330-936-1030
1993 Angler-02' 115 Suzuki 4 Stroke |
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dotnmarty
Joined: 03 Nov 2003 Posts: 4209 City/Region: Sammamish
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 1993
C-Dory Model: 16 Angler
Vessel Name: LIZZIE II
Photos: Lizzie
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bjidzik
Joined: 21 May 2007 Posts: 112 City/Region: Juneau
State or Province: AK
C-Dory Year: 2009
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Betty Joe
Photos: Betty Joe
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Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2010 4:26 pm Post subject: |
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Jim,
We traded in the Cachita to Panhandler Powerboats in October for a 25' Cruiser "Betty Joe".
We bought the Cachita from an individual in Fairbanks in September 2007. The original owner bought it from Alaska Mining & Diving in Anchorage. Individual's C-Brat username is "frostheave" if you would like to see some of his posts.
The boat and trailer have been meticulously maintained while we owned it. Everything works.
The Cachita album has been moved into the "Betty Joe" album if you would like to see more recent images of the boat.
We put about 150 hours on the main engine. Kicker has about 3-5 hours on it.
If you have any specific questions, please fire away. Cachita is an awesome boat & served us well. _________________ 2002 16' Cruiser (Cachita) traded in 10/2009
2009 25' Cruiser (Betty Joe)

Brian & Helen Idzik |
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jhayes1068
Joined: 09 Dec 2009 Posts: 110 City/Region: Farmersburg
State or Province: IN
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Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2010 5:17 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks to everyone for the information and the photo's on the Cachita. The main question on the boat now that I know more about the condition of the boat is: what is the approximate range for the boat at cruising speed with the installed fuel tank with that engine? I see from the photos that the boat has room for additional fuel tanks for longer runs. My concern is to have sufficient fuel to run the Inside Passage between refueling stops and a safety margine. Thanks, Jim |
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bjidzik
Joined: 21 May 2007 Posts: 112 City/Region: Juneau
State or Province: AK
C-Dory Year: 2009
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Betty Joe
Photos: Betty Joe
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Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2010 6:08 pm Post subject: |
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A 16' Cruiser would probably not have enough fuel capacity to do the Inside Passage safely.
Using the rule of 1/3s (1/3 out, 1/3 back, 1/3 reserve), I estimated a safe radius of about 35-40 nm under ideal conditions. It would be sufficient for a short run from Juneau to Hoonah (70 nm) for a refuel stop. A run from Juneau to Haines (80 nm) is feasible if launching from Amalga Harbor or Echo Cove.
The transom of the boat is pretty well loaded down, so spare fuel would have to be moved forward to balance the load. You also have to factor in provisions, emergency gear & the like.
With both me & my wife on board, fuel economy dropped about 1nm/gal. Going solo, fuel economy was noticeably better. Getting on plane was also a lot easier.
A 19' Angler would probably be the smallest C-Dory I'd recommend for extended travel (Glacier Bay, Elfin Cove, Pelican & beyond)
Brian |
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thataway
Joined: 02 Nov 2003 Posts: 21528 City/Region: Pensacola
State or Province: FL
C-Dory Year: 2007
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: thataway
Photos: Thataway
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Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2010 7:34 pm Post subject: |
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Although we saw a 16 cruiser crusing the San Juans, and have seen solo kayaks all along the inland passage, I would say that it would really be a stretch to attempt the inland passage in a 16 C Dory. You want comfort, safety and warmth on this trip. I would want at least 200 nautical mile range in any boat I took.
Can it be done? Sure--15 foot boats have sailed to Hawaii, but not the most comfortable or safest idea. _________________ Bob Austin
Thataway
Thataway (Ex Seaweed) 2007 25 C Dory May 2018 to Oct. 2021
Thisaway 2006 22' CDory November 2011 to May 2018
Caracal 18 140 Suzuki 2007 to present
Thataway TomCat 255 150 Suzukis June 2006 thru August 2011
C Pelican; 1992, 22 Cruiser, 2002 thru 2006
Frequent Sea; 2003 C D 25, 2007 thru 2009
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Home port: Pensacola FL |
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jhayes1068
Joined: 09 Dec 2009 Posts: 110 City/Region: Farmersburg
State or Province: IN
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Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2010 7:47 pm Post subject: |
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Brian, thank you for your insight about what it would take to make the Inside Passage trip safely. I had figured that a 22'CD might be the best option for the trip, however, when I saw the Cachita and the list of options installed on the boat, I was really impressed. I was really concerned that the boat wouldn't have the range needed for the longer legs of the trip. As I understand it, one leg of the trip is approximately 155 NM between fuel stops. I think evan a 22 CD would need spare tanks to make that distance with reserve. I went to Mercury's website just to compare fuel usage rates on different size motors, and a single 115 hp 4 stroke is very close to two 40's or 50's 4 strokes in gph of fuel used. Of course with the 115 I would still have to have a kicker on the boat. I have to tell you, that just planning for a possible trip on the Inside Passage is really fun. Thanks, Jim |
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jhayes1068
Joined: 09 Dec 2009 Posts: 110 City/Region: Farmersburg
State or Province: IN
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Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2010 7:59 pm Post subject: |
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Hi Bob, I know you're right about the comfort level in a 16' as opposed to a 22' or larger boat. While it would be a solo trip and I wouldn't have to worry about my wife's comfort (she wouldn't go in any boat short of 900-1000ft in length) , my main concern would be fuel capacity and being able to store it on a small boat safely with all the other items that would be required for the trip. I have no doubt that the 16' would handle the trip from a seaworthy standpoint as long as I didn't screw up on my navigation and the weather reports. Thanks, Jim |
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hardee
Joined: 30 Oct 2006 Posts: 12637 City/Region: Sequim
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2005
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Sleepy-C
Photos: SleepyC
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Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 10:22 am Post subject: Montgomery15 |
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SIDEBAR HERE:
Dr Bob said:
Quote: | "Can it be done? Sure--15 foot boats have sailed to Hawaii, but not the most comfortable or safest idea." |
At least on was a Montgomery 15 designed by Lyle Hess.
Harvey
SleepyC _________________ Though in our sleep we are not conscious of our activity or surroundings, we should not, in our wakefulness, be unconscious of our sleep. |
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