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Tug



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 4:23 pm    Post subject: Marine Decraguard Reply with quote

Is there a suitable replacement that is a close match for Marine Decraguard. I had a project in mind for my boats interior.I found a source for Marine Decraguard in Chicago but the least amount that i could order is 48 sheets. Has anyone found something that is an suitable substitute. Thanks
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 4:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Antique White" (#932) Formica. I'm in the same boat (sorry) for some upcoming projects and the Formica is so close it's not noticable.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 4:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A Formica like product offered by Nevamar is a dead ringer for the wood look Decraguard in Adeline. I'm guessing your '85 interior is the same as mine. I'm away from home now but I'll post the model # later when i get back to base.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 5:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was looking for substitute for the original teak textured 3/4 inch Decraguard plywood that was used in the Classic models cabinetry/interior/exterior bulkheads. Sorry i did not make myself clear earlier. Thanks
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 5:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I will see if Nevamar is available in Canada. Thanks
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 5:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm pretty sure you and I have the same interior woodwork. The Nevamar is simply a laminate that is glued onto plywood. I purchased some over in Portland for future projects I'm planning. It really is a perfect match.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 5:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pete i just looked at www.Nevamar.com website. Some of the lamintes look to be a very close colour match. When you get the chance can you post the color model number in which to order. Thanks Again
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 5:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A quick search revealed that I've posted about this before. I recall taking one of my cabinet doors with me to a builder's supply in Portland to ensure that I got the closest match possible. It was "Golden Ash #8110". The thread is here .

Others here and here .
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 8:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guess I should've noticed the yr of your boat. Embarassed Mr. Green
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 1:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I found a supplier for Nevamar about 500 miles from me.I ordered a 4x8 foot sheet of Nevamar Laminate ..Golden Ash WM # 8110 T. for a winter project that i have in mind. Takes 2 days ground by Fedex so it will be here next week. Think i will just attach it to pressurized plywood or does it need to be marine plywood.Does anyone know what type of adhesive is needed for attaching the laminate to plywood. Thanks


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 1:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good quality Contact Cement will work. Apply to both surfaces, allow to dry to tack, align and adhere. Make sure it's positioned, 'cause once it adheres...it ADHERES. If working with a large piece, I use several small wooden sticks/dowels spread evenly across the glued wood; this creates a working surface that allows the laminate to be properly positioned. Place the laminate, position and remove one stick/dowel at a time, rolling or pressing the laminate as I go. Good luck.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 6:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thats good information, i was unsure about the procedure in which you apply the laminate to another material. Will difinity use that method when i do my project.Thanks Again








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PostPosted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 3:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don’t know where the rumor started that you need to order a minimum of 48 sheets of Marine DecraGuard at a time. Marine DecraGuard is made by Olympic Panel Products in Shelton Washington just 20 minutes NW of Olympia. Ben and I will be using it for the boats we are building and he was under the same impression that we had to order 48 sheets at a time.

I talked to Russ Hellwege the Product Manager at Olympic Panel. They sell wholesale only so when we start production, we will buy direct, but for the first boat we will buy just what we need from the local hardware store. There are two hardware stores in Olympia that sell it by the sheet and I know there is one in South Tacoma that sells it by the sheet. I got the names of the stores that sell it by the sheet from Laurie Larsen at Olympic Panel. I was just interested in the ones close to us but she said it is sold all over the country by the sheet.

Here is a PDF file on Marine DecraGuard and here is the contact info for Olympic Panel.

If anybody wants to know of a store that sells it by the sheet in their area, I will see if Laurie Larsen has that information.
Once Ben and I get our operation going next year, we will sell sheets or partial sheets of Marine DecraGuard.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 9:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That is great news, Dave, because when I called around I could not find anyone to sell it to me. Would really appreciate knowing where to buy it north of Everett, if possible. Anacortes/Mt. Vernon would be ideal but I am not holding my breath.

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 9:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I rebuilt the interior of Beagle last year I tried for a month to get 3 sheets of DecraGuard with no success, and settled for marine plywood with laminate. I contacted Olympic Panel and tried to reason with them that I wasn't undercutting any of their re-sellers if I couldn't get the product locally. I fould that neither Tacoma Plywood (where I purchased the marine plywood) nor any of the Oly stores had any in stock. I suggested they slip a few pieces out the back door and I would come and get them. I guess I bugged Julie at Olympic Panel enough that she called one day and said I could get 10 panels of shop grade (80% useful) at $40 each through Lumbermans in Shelton. I was already underway with my project by the time this offer was made so I didn't go through with it. I did think about doing it and offering them to my fellow Brats, but I did not have a place to store them long term.
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