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mcc272
Joined: 05 Jun 2008 Posts: 233 City/Region: Long Island Sound
State or Province: CT
C-Dory Year: 2004
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: C-Star
Photos: C-Star
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Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2009 8:53 am Post subject: V700 Windlass Wiring Puzzle |
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I have reviewed the windlass wiring instructions that came with my V700 and they sure puzzle me. The windlass is supplied with a 35A circuit breaker which is to be installed in the cable between the battery and the toggle switch. Based on the total wire run on my boat, I am using 6 ga. wire. I can get crimp connectors for 6 ga. that have holes for #10 screws so I can connect to the toggle switch. So far, so good. Then I get to the part of the wiring between the switch and the windlass itself. The windlass has a black and a red wire and the wiring diagram in the instructions calls for a 3A fuse in each lead. That is the part that makes no sense to me for several reasons. First, the circuit breaker is 35A and the West Marine catalogue says the draw is 40A. It would seem to me that a 3A fuse in the main leads to the motor would be completely undersized for this application even if one could figure out how to wire a 3A fuse into 6 ga. wiring. My inclination is to leave both of the 3A fuses out as the circuit is protected by the 35A breaker on the battery end of the positive feed.
For those interested and looking at the wiring diagrams in their owner's manuals or on line, the diagram to which I am referring is 2.4 V700 Wiring Diagram (toggle switch).
Am I missing something? I have written Lewmar USA to see if that can explain this to me.
Jim _________________ Jim
Connecticut Side of LI Sound
C-Star, 2004 22 Cruiser (sold 10/10)
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marvin4239
Joined: 06 Feb 2007 Posts: 1165 City/Region: Jacksonville Florida/Wilmington NC
State or Province: FL
C-Dory Year: 2007
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: C-FLE II
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Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2009 9:45 am Post subject: |
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I'm sure thats a misprint if you were using a contactor you would use a 3 amp fuse in the control circuit but not the motor feed circuit. The 3 amp fuse would blow instantly Wefing installed my windlass and it has no such fuse. _________________ marvin |
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Captains Cat
Joined: 03 Nov 2003 Posts: 7313 City/Region: Cod Creek>Potomac River>Chesapeake Bay
State or Province: VA
C-Dory Year: 2005
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Captain's Choice II
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Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2009 10:19 am Post subject: |
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Jim, I saw that too when I installed mine. I called their tech support number and they told me to ignore it.
Charlie _________________ CHARLIE and PENNY CBRAT #100
Captain's Cat II 2005 22 Cruiser
Thataway (2006 TC255 - Sold Aug 2013)
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Potomac River/Chesapeake Bay
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mcc272
Joined: 05 Jun 2008 Posts: 233 City/Region: Long Island Sound
State or Province: CT
C-Dory Year: 2004
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: C-Star
Photos: C-Star
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Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2009 10:31 am Post subject: |
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Thanks. I always assume that the manufacturer knows more than I do and that there may be a reason even if I can't figure it out. On this one, I was sure that a 3A fuse would blow in an instant and saw that it was what was used to protect the various controllers on a contactor setup. However, nice to know that Lewmar says to ignore it.
Thanks again.
Jim |
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flrockytop
Joined: 04 Oct 2006 Posts: 502 City/Region: Pensacola
State or Province: FL
C-Dory Year: 2007
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: The Last One (to date)
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Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2009 1:26 pm Post subject: |
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One suggestion. Place a quick disconnect close to the motor. I have had mine jam the rode so hard that I had to lift the windless to be able to pry it loose. Being able to disconnect the power wire helps.
Roger _________________ 2007 22 Cruiser
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Roger Rockwell
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mcc272
Joined: 05 Jun 2008 Posts: 233 City/Region: Long Island Sound
State or Province: CT
C-Dory Year: 2004
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: C-Star
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Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 9:31 am Post subject: |
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Lewmar responded this morning confirming that the 3A fuses are not required. The explanation was pretty interesting so here it is:
"For one edition of our owner’s manual, when it was created, the creators used the little block that represented the 3 amp fuse as a butt connector as well and didn’t take the title out of the picture."
Roger --
Great idea regarding the ability to break the cables near the motor. Sooner or later, you are going to have to remove the windlass. I am not partial to butt connectors so I had been planning to connect the smaller factory wiring on the windlass to the cables at a terminal block up forward. That will do the trick but thanks for the suggestion.
Jim |
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Byrdman
Joined: 06 Nov 2003 Posts: 3320 City/Region: Cumberland River, Clarksville,
State or Province: WA
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Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 9:38 am Post subject: |
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Hey Jim... Sorry I missed this post... but, you got there anyway.
The company is great with their quick response times. Looks like your first post was over the weekend, and we are not really even into a good full business day on Monday... and you got a response.
Pictures are worth a 1000 words....but, this goes to show that you can not alway believe what we see. Interesting.
Glad you are enjoying your boat. Enjoyed our many chats in the process.
Byrdman _________________ Patrick Byrd "Byrdman"
Cumberland River TN home waters Puget Sound Summers.
Miss B - CD22A, Aug 2018
C-Byrd, CD18A, Hull #14 sold again.. May 2020
C-Byrd, CD18A, Hu #14 - Bought her again - May16
Aloysius, Sold to Brother Mike Mar16
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