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Adeline
Joined: 03 Nov 2003 Posts: 985 City/Region: Vancouver
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 1989
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Adeline
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marvin4239
Joined: 06 Feb 2007 Posts: 1165 City/Region: Jacksonville Florida/Wilmington NC
State or Province: FL
C-Dory Year: 2007
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: C-FLE II
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Posted: Sat Jul 11, 2009 4:46 pm Post subject: |
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That's great I just spent $110 on a new carb for my Stihl weed eater that was destroyed by 10% ethanol. _________________ marvin |
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Adeline
Joined: 03 Nov 2003 Posts: 985 City/Region: Vancouver
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 1989
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Adeline
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Posted: Sat Jul 11, 2009 4:48 pm Post subject: |
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Yep, we're screwed ! |
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Sea Wolf
Joined: 01 Nov 2003 Posts: 8650 City/Region: Redding
State or Province: CA
C-Dory Year: 1987
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Sea Wolf
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Posted: Sat Jul 11, 2009 8:44 pm Post subject: |
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Adeline wrote: | Yep, we're screwed ! |
No, it's time to screw the Mid-West farmers and their lobbyists, politicians and the radical environmentalists who force this crap upon us!
I want to save the Earth and protect it resources and creatures as much as anyone else, but this ethanol stuff makes no sense at all!
It costs more energy to produce a gallon of ethanol than is in it.
It is a poor and devastating use of the soil.
It requires artificial fertilizers and insecticides.
It's basically a waste of energy, and of natural resources, and it screws up the environment with pesticides and other chemicals.
This ethanol mandate creates an artificial market for corn that impacts the natural functioning both the food and energy markets.
And, as we see demonstrated, it screws up our automobile, marine, and other engines.
Instead, let them plant, raise, and sell something is really needed and has a natural market!
Joe.  _________________ Sea Wolf, C-Brat #31
Lake Shasta, California
 
"Most of my money I spent on boats and women. The rest I squandered'. " -Annonymous |
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Captains Cat
Joined: 03 Nov 2003 Posts: 7313 City/Region: Cod Creek>Potomac River>Chesapeake Bay
State or Province: VA
C-Dory Year: 2005
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Captain's Choice II
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Posted: Sat Jul 11, 2009 9:59 pm Post subject: |
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Well, c'mon Joe, tell us how you really feel!
I agree 100%. That means less great eatin' corn for me too!
I was able to buy ethanol free, treated fuel at a marina this afternoon. Not much of that around, I'll remember that and go back to that place again!
Charlie _________________ CHARLIE and PENNY CBRAT #100
Captain's Cat II 2005 22 Cruiser
Thataway (2006 TC255 - Sold Aug 2013)
Captain's Cat (2006 TC255 - Sold January 2012)
Captain's Kitten (1995 CD 16 Angler- Sold June 2010)
Captain's Choice (1994 CD 22 Cruiser- Sold Jun 2007)
Potomac River/Chesapeake Bay
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DaveS
Joined: 01 Nov 2003 Posts: 3204 City/Region: Arlington
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2004
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Sea Shift
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Posted: Sat Jul 11, 2009 10:10 pm Post subject: |
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It seems to me that we need to provide boats to politicians so they can experience the adverse effects of ethanol on their vessels and their pocketbooks. _________________ Dave S.
"Sea Shift"
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localboy
Joined: 30 Sep 2006 Posts: 4673 City/Region: Lake Stevens via Honolulu
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2007
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: 'Au Kai (Ocean Traveler)
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Posted: Sat Jul 11, 2009 11:00 pm Post subject: |
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Sea Wolf wrote: | No, it's time to screw the Mid-West farmers and their lobbyists, politicians and the radical environmentalists who force this crap upon us!
I want to save the Earth and protect it resources and creatures as much as anyone else, but this ethanol stuff makes no sense at all!
It costs more energy to produce a gallon of ethanol than is in it.
It is a poor and devastating use of the soil.
It requires artificial fertilizers and insecticides.
It's basically a waste of energy, and of natural resources, and it screws up the environment with pesticides and other chemicals.
This ethanol mandate creates an artificial market for corn that impacts the natural functioning both the food and energy markets.
And, as we see demonstrated, it screws up our automobile, marine, and other engines.
Instead, let them plant, raise, and sell something is really needed and has a natural market!
Joe.  |
Why cloud the eutopian ideals with facts? The tree huggers and the Supreme Leader Al Snore, will NEVER allow this! Now go hug a tree, sell everything you own and move to a cave. That is all... _________________ "We can go over there...behind the 'little one'....."
Wife to her husband pointing @ us...from the bow of their 50-footer; Prideaux Haven 2013 |
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Papillon
Joined: 31 Mar 2005 Posts: 949 City/Region: DeBary, Fl. *On the St. John's River*
State or Province: FL
C-Dory Year: 1993
C-Dory Model: 22 Angler
Vessel Name: Papillon
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Posted: Sat Jul 11, 2009 11:13 pm Post subject: |
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Guess it's time to get out the old still and start brewing up my on addative so I can at least be in the right state of mind when my motor goes "put".
You would think that the powers that be would at least put corn in something that we could enjoy. _________________ Mike Taylor
330-936-1030
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marvin4239
Joined: 06 Feb 2007 Posts: 1165 City/Region: Jacksonville Florida/Wilmington NC
State or Province: FL
C-Dory Year: 2007
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: C-FLE II
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Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2009 12:37 am Post subject: |
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This reminds me of the 70's when we went to lead free fuel. Fortunately our marinas still serve ethanol free fuel. |
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RJD Wannabe
Joined: 16 Jun 2007 Posts: 244 City/Region: Elk Grove
State or Province: CA
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Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2009 12:43 am Post subject: |
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any way to locate places that sell ethanol free gas? a website, etc??
Will demand by boaters, etc., force this?? _________________ Soon to join C-Dory owners |
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Adeline
Joined: 03 Nov 2003 Posts: 985 City/Region: Vancouver
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 1989
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Adeline
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Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2009 1:32 am Post subject: |
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Quote: | any way to locate places that sell ethanol free gas? a website, etc?? |
Here is a kit to test fuel at the point of purchase. |
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ramos
Joined: 12 Feb 2009 Posts: 243 City/Region: WASCO
State or Province: OR
C-Dory Year: 2009
C-Dory Model: 16 Cruiser
Vessel Name: C-Squirt
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Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2009 2:32 am Post subject: |
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Well I will just re-arange my life to occomodate 15% ethanol. I will let the weeds grow to save my trimmer, I will stop watering the yard and pasture to save my mower and UTV, I will have a cold house this winter to save my chainsaw, I will have leaves covering my brown lawn so I don't destroy my leaf blower & I will park the boat to save my Honda warranty (already lost the warranty on the boat recently). With all the money I will save on fuel, I will be better prepared for the inflation that is sure to come! Please forgive this post, I just need to blow now and then. _________________ Jon Ramos
2009 16C
50 EFI Honda
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Nan-C
Joined: 02 Apr 2007 Posts: 184 City/Region: Oakland
State or Province: CA
Vessel Name: Nan-C
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Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2009 8:32 am Post subject: |
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Joe -- This Iowa Boy says you are ---- TOTALLY RIGHT! You forgot a couple of consequences/absurdities. The run-off with all the fertilizers and chemicals we use to grow that fuel-corn flows down the Mississippi and contributes to devastating effects in the Gulf. Also, the production of one gallon of ethanol requires the use of an incredible amount of water. No one with a true and intelligent and agenda-free regard for the environment favors ethanol. Like too many things in our culture, it comes back to "just doing business." When those who care and have their priorities straight ignore the great liberal/conservative divide and unite in favor of clean air, water, and land, we may have a chance to preserve the incredible environment that is ours. Until then, self-interest and allegiance will divide us and blind us as we apply double standards to protect our own turf while sacrificing the other guy's to a higher value.
Regarding "tree huggers" and "Al Snore," we have come a long way on this site from a time when posters referred to other members with ridiculing labels like "watermelons." I hope we can continue to focus on the boats. When we don't, I hope we can disagree with civility and without the nasty, cheap shots that are inherent in derogatory labels.
Regards to all,
Greg |
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