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PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 10:28 pm    Post subject: S1000 Data Cable Reply with quote

I am installing an S1000 autopilot and want to put the computer underneath the galley along with the drive motor. The supplied data cable is not long enough to reach the area behind the helm. Am I correct in thinking that the data cable can simply be extended with a 9 pin serial extension cable?

Thanks.

Jim

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 10:36 pm    Post subject: Re: S1000 Data Cable Reply with quote

mcc272 wrote:
I am installing an S1000 autopilot and want to put the computer underneath the galley along with the drive motor. The supplied data cable is not long enough to reach the area behind the helm. Am I correct in thinking that the data cable can simply be extended with a 9 pin serial extension cable?

Thanks.

Jim


I haven't done it but I would think that it should work. I should have a cable around here some where. I'll try and dig it out tomorrow and give it a try.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 12:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wrote RayMarine and asked whether they sold a longer data cable or whether the cable could be extended with a serial cable. They wrote back less than 24 hours later and indicated that they did not sell a longer cable but that the cable could be extended. Problem solved!

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 4:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So are you saying that a 9-pin extension cable has the same color coding?

If so, I might do the same as you are. That motor is pretty darn noisy!

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 5:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Peter --

I think it is even simpler than thinking about color coding. If it is a 9 pin with a male connector at one end and a female connector at the other end, it is simply an extension cord. It picks up whatever pin is on the S1000 computer and carries it along without changing pin assignments. I went to my local Staples this morning and got one. Don't recall the exact price but it was about $10-15 and no wait or shipping.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 1:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mcc272 wrote:
Peter --

I think it is even simpler than thinking about color coding. If it is a 9 pin with a male connector at one end and a female connector at the other end, it is simply an extension cord. It picks up whatever pin is on the S1000 computer and carries it along without changing pin assignments. I went to my local Staples this morning and got one. Don't recall the exact price but it was about $10-15 and no wait or shipping.

Jim


You just have to make sure that the cable you buy has ALL of the wires. Some of the cables only have a couple of the the wires. You also have to be sure you do not get a NULL cable the reverses pins 2 and 3.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 2:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks guys. I guess I was wondering how would you know if the colors lined up when trying to interface with another unit via NMEA 0183.

For example, Raymarine says:

Wire Color | Pin Number | NMEA-S1000 | 3rd party GPS

Orange | 3 | + Receive | NMEA + Transmit
Blue | 5 | - Receive | NMEA - Transmit

Using an extension, how would you know if the colors/pin numbers match up in order to connect it to the GPS wires? Is there a way to determine the color to Pin Number on generic extensions?

Sorry if I'm making this way too complicated. I really don't know the answer. Confused
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 6:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jazzmanic wrote:
Thanks guys. I guess I was wondering how would you know if the colors lined up when trying to interface with another unit via NMEA 0183.

For example, Raymarine says:

Wire Color | Pin Number | NMEA-S1000 | 3rd party GPS

Orange | 3 | + Receive | NMEA + Transmit
Blue | 5 | - Receive | NMEA - Transmit

Using an extension, how would you know if the colors/pin numbers match up in order to connect it to the GPS wires? Is there a way to determine the color to Pin Number on generic extensions?

Sorry if I'm making this way too complicated. I really don't know the answer. Confused


The cable from the S1000 already has a connector on it. If you buy an extention cable one end will have a male connector and the other a female. Just plug the extention cable into the S1000 cable and the other end to the gps. If it is a stright through cable (as it should be), all should work. You don't need to worry about colors. Pin 3 is going to connect from the S1000 cable to pin three of the extention cable to pin 3 of the gps. Ditto for pin 5. Is it still clear as mud?

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 10:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just came in off of working on the boat but in the morning, I will check the continuity pin to pin of the cable I got from Staples which purports to be an extension cable. Presuming it checks out, I will post the part number and then there will be at least one cable that we know is simply an extension cable with all 9 wires without having any pin reassignments.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 9:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just checked the cable pins and sockets for continuity. There are 9 wires in the cable and no changing of pin assignments. It is a true "serial extension cable" and does nothing more or less. I got it at Staples. It is 6 ft long, made by Belkin and is called a "Serial Extension Cable" on the blister pack. The only part number I can find on the package is P98791 and I am not sure whose part number that is as it does not match to the Staples or Belkin web sites. Also, any good sized computer vendor such as PC Connection should have a staight, plain vanilla serial extension cable.

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