New proposed knife ban

Doryman · Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 3:26 pm Post subject: New proposed knife ban

I am copying below a post from the Trawlers list. Anyone know more about this?

Warren

Simplicity · Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 4:54 pm Post subject:

It wouldn't surprise me.When we were in Scotland a local was telling us about the surge in knife fighting in Glasgow.I was about to make a facetious comment about banning knives to solve the problem when he said they were about to ban many types of knives.Believe it or not in New York City they made Aluminum baseball bats illegal to "prevent" crime.I'm sure it's likely the criminals will follow these laws as they do the others.

starcrafttom · Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 7:44 pm Post subject:

Swords have fixed blades and can not be concealed with make them legal. I have several so when the come for my guns I have a back up. Some where I have a pic of me in full armor with my sword but can not find it yet.

All kidding aside, I don't know a fireman, cop or marine that does not carry one of the knives they are talking about. no function of the design of these or any knives cause people to use then to kill. Just like guns, its people that kill people not tools.

Sea Angel · Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 8:12 pm Post subject:

AH, yes. AND when will we band cars and cigarettes? Rolling Eyes

What ever happened to accountability, common good and common sense? Disgust

Art

Da Nag · Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 8:53 pm Post subject:

DaveS · Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 10:50 pm Post subject:

kennharriet · Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 12:10 am Post subject:

I favor the AK gun laws where you can carry a concealed, unregistered, handgun, anytime, anywhere, without a permit. Only exceptions are in court or behind airport security. This makes the kind of knife or baseball bat someone carries a mute point.

thataway · Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 1:04 am Post subject:

I have an "illegal" Kershaw in my pocket now...had it in the pocket when customs came aboard two days ago...Thanks for the Heads up!

A lot of these good easy opening knives are made right here in the USA! In fact in my opinion the best are made here. Agree with the comments about Doug Ritter's knives and work! Equipt to survive.

Chester · Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 1:48 am Post subject:

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starcrafttom · Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 1:53 am Post subject:

Art they can't band smokes or cars. The government makes more off a pack of smoke or a gallon of gas then folks that make the gas and smokes.

Valkyrie · Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2009 6:07 pm Post subject:

For ease of opening, I really like the "wave" feature found on Emerson knives and now on some Spyderco models. It is a small hook-like protrusion on the back of the blade and when it is drawn from its clipped-on pocket position the hook snags the edge of the pocket and opens instantly on the draw. There are some interesting videos of the system on YouTube.

I help teach a defensive knife class at our local Sheriff's Office and in a drill that we teach, I can draw the knife and break a balloon in less than a second, while most of the deputies take from 5-12 seconds to do so. Many now carry a "wave" equipped knife. I carry an Emerson model and Marcia carries one by Spyderco. Both blades are less than 3" so they are legal almost everywhere. At least for now.

Nick
"Valkyrie"

starcrafttom · Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 1:19 am Post subject:

Nick I just watched the videos on the emerson site but still dont see the way the knife opens. I have had a knife all my life on one type or another. I like the one handed openers but a long time ago I had a butterfly knife. I think the new knives open far faster then my old butterfly.

Doryman · Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 5:14 am Post subject:

Valkyrie · Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 7:32 am Post subject:

Tom,

Let me try again. When the knife is clipped in the pocket, the tip of the blade is carried in the up position. The "hook" that I spoke of is on the top edge/spine of the blade near the "hinge" and the thumb opening device. Drawing from the pocket, the knife is grasped and pressure is exerted so that the "hook" catches the edge of the pocket. Upon doing so, the blade rotates into an open position and locks in place. Very slick, but I have worked with mine, "tuned" and lubed it so much that it often opens when simply being removed from my pocket at the end of the day. Care must be taken!

Warren,

I carry the MCQC7 that you mentioned every day, but mine has the Tanto blade.

Great source (read good selection, reasonable price and good service) for edged weapons and flashlights is the New Graham Knife Co (www.newgraham.com) is Bluefield, WV. I had bought from them on-line and we stopped there on a trip to SC (they're 20 minutes off I-77) and were impressed. We also went away with less money. You can get a wave-equipped Spyderco Delica, either plain or edge or serrated for about $65.

Nick
"Valkyrie"

Doryman · Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 12:35 pm Post subject:

Nick, in thinking further about the wave feature, I would be concerned about cutting my pockets to shreds!

I am not really looking for a self-defense knife as thus far in life I have generally managed to avoid putting myself in harm's way. I did have a concealed carry permit in Utah and found myself leaving the pistol in the safe more often than not. And I have felt even less need for one here in WA.

So even though I like the knife I don't think it would get much use other than opening packages, and I am not sure I would know how to use it in a self-defense capacity anyway -- and I don't feel a need to learn.

Color me Pollyanna if you wish...

Warren