Changing my own oil; need some backup!

[timflan]

OK, I'm going to change the oil in my 2005 Johnson (Suzuki-made) 90-HP 4-stroke EFI engine. I'm going to try to figure this out on my own, but if I get stuck, it would be nice to know that some kind C-Brat "had my back".

Anybody in the greater Seattle area willing to let me call if I get confused?

To be more precise, here's what I intend to do:
1. Change engine oil
2. Replace oil filter
3. Change gear oil
4. Grease the swivel bracket, prop shaft, and throttle/shift linkage
5. Check the power trim/tilt fluid level

I've watched this done, and I've got the service manual. It all looks pretty straightforward.

Anybody wanna be my guru on this one? Thanks!

[Chester]

Might be a good time to inspect or replace the fuel filter. Make sure the O rings for the gearcase plugs are in good shape, they keep the water out of the gear oil. Oh, yeah, save the beer till afterwards...

[matt_unique]

[thataway]

Consider a new "washer" under both the gear drain and top plugs, as well as the engine drain. these are compression washers, and I replace them each time I change fluids. Cheap insurance.

Also take the prop off the shaft, check seals and check for line. Regrease the shaft and replace the prop with a new cotter pin.

[Robbi]

Tim, If I can do this, not a problem It really is not too difficult if your manual gives you good information. The Suzuki manual is ok. One thing that I found that you may need is a strap wrench to remove the oil filter. It works real slick. Also, the first time I changed the oil and put in the amount that the manual said was the "capacity", it was over filled. I asked Rick, the rigger at C-Dory, and he told me that he never puts in the amount the manual says, at least all at once. He said that very often it will be full with less, even after running and filling the new filter. I put in 5 1/2 qts of the 6, and then check it.

The gear oil is so much fun. At least you can't over fill. If you plan on doing your maintainance, I would buy a pump, and use the large containers of gear oil. The small tubes are hard to empty, especially after you get gear oil on you hands and everything gets slippery.


You should have extra gaskets for the engine oil plug in your Johnson tool kit. I think mine came with about 10 of them. As mentioned before, make sure you change them each time you change your oil, even if they look good, as they probably will.

Robbi

[Da Nag]

Sucking out the oil, is far easier and cleaner than draining, but it might not be an option for every outboard. Unlike draining, it's also possible with the boat in the water...although most of us probably do our maintenance with the boat on the trailer.

I picked up an Astro 7340 Fluid Extractor (pictured below), which works like a dream. It has a manual pump, but it also has a fitting for an air compressor hose.

With warm oil and the compressor hooked up, it will suck a crankcase dry in a couple minutes, without spilling a drop. I've not used the manual pump yet, but I'm guessing it would be a bit slower. Cleanup is equally easy - pop the top, and pour it into a recycle receptacle.

If using an extraction pump (on any engine), it's probably wise to verify it's getting all the oil the first time used. Simply pull the drain plug afterwards. A few drips is not really of concern, but use your best judgment. I don't see a drop out of any of my engines - the extraction tube easily hits the lowest part of the pan, when inserted through the dipstick tube.

[starcrafttom]

tim call me I'm open on saturday afternoon and sunday.

[Island Ranger]

Tim - I did it quite a few times on that engine, let me know if you run into anything.
Mac

[CAVU]

Agree with Da Nag on the vacuum pump for oil changes, especially on Hondas. Don't know about Suzukis but I could never change the Honda oil without making a big mess until I got one of those dipstick extractors. Mine leaves nothing that will drain out thru the oil plug-plus you don't have to replace that washer. Filling the gearcase is another matter. I have never found a clean neat way to do that.

[timflan]

Golly, thanks, folks! I am filled with confidence. And with the knowledge that I can call on one of you if I get stuck.

I think I'm all set up with parts and tools, now. I already had an oil filter, filter wrench, and the oil. John, the parts guru at Jacobsen's Marine in Ballard, helped me find the gearcase lube kit, which has a pump that screws right onto the bottle; probably a little rinky-dink if you're doing this for a living, but looks about right for me. I have two gear-lube gaskets, but NOT the oil plug gaskets, so I'll need to see if that's one of those mysterious items Mac included with the boat...it probably is. I went ahead and got the official Evinrude/Johnson Triple Guard Grease Gun Kit...I don't possess a grease gun of any kind, and the alternative (a squeeze tube with an adapter) looked too rinky-dink, even for me.

Now I'm just waiting for a day without rain. Tomorrow is booked anyway. Kiera and I will be running our RC tug boat at the Pacific Marine Expo.

Thanks again, everyone!

[marvin4239]

I suspect your Johnson 90 is pretty much identical to my Suzuki 90. I find it stupid you must remove the lower unit cover to get to the oil filter but it's no nig deal I think it takes a 7MM socket. The oil drain gasket is metal and while I have extras purchased at the dealer I haven't found it necessary to change in four oil changes. As far as a grease gun I'd get a full size one rather than the rinky dink little ones they sell that come with four small tubes of grease I've got both and the little one is a pain in the butt. You can use it on your trailer bearings also. Of course get a good quality marine grease. I put a light coating of Corrosion Block on my engine and steering rod mechanism at each oil change.

[hardee]

Tim,

You, (and Robbi ) are an encouragement to me. I have not done my own oil and lowercase fluid changes yet, but have decided it is going to be done. Have been taking it to the boat mechanics, but I figure I can figure a way, and find the time to do my own here sometime. We had decided to run the boat regularly through the winter, but are running into some family complications with that.

[SeaSpray]

Hi Tim,

I have the same motor. One of the things I do is to use some tape to make a little v-shaped piece I tape below the drain plug and filter so the oil does not run down the motor side. it directs the oil out from the motor just enough.

I have also replaced the impeller and it was not too hard to do. You have plenty of good advice here so I am sure it will go well.

Steve

[Robbi]

Steve, Thanks, the tape is a great idea. Robbi

[starcrafttom]

on the honda oil drain I just cut the bottom off a small soda bottle and place that around the drain. keeps the oil from running down the side of the case. So tim how did it go?