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dotnmarty
Joined: 03 Nov 2003 Posts: 4196 City/Region: Sammamish
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 1993
C-Dory Model: 16 Angler
Vessel Name: LIZZIE II
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Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 10:19 am Post subject: |
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Would a VW TDI pull a 16 footer? _________________ MartyP
"...we're all in the same boat..." |
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Lucky Day
Joined: 10 Oct 2006 Posts: 215 City/Region: Churchton
State or Province: MD
C-Dory Year: 2004
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Lucky Day
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Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 10:26 am Post subject: |
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I am an ardent diesel proponent, based on years of experience with compression ignition engines. I drove about 1-million miles in Cat and Cummins powered 18-wheelers. I've owned a '79 VW Rabbit diesel, a '95 Mercedes 300d, and best of all - I had an '06 Mercedes E320cdi. The cdi was f-f-f-FANtastic - smile-inducing ROBUST acceleration and OUTSTANDING fuel economy. I regularly got 26mpg in all-city driving and 37-39 mpg on the highway. And believe me, I was never late to anything due to the car being too slow!
Expanding the clean diesel-powered US automobile fleet would be a huge step forward for the country, both from the fuel consumption standpoint and from the greener-emissions standpoint. Not to mention the option of stretching petro-diesel with varying biodiesel blends. I don't think Americans would reject modern diesels if they drove one. The exhausts don't even smell bad. The list of advantages goes on and on compared to other existing alternatives (don't get me started). I suspect many C-brats are already aware of the benefits. |
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marvin4239
Joined: 06 Feb 2007 Posts: 1165 City/Region: Jacksonville Florida/Wilmington NC
State or Province: FL
C-Dory Year: 2007
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: C-FLE II
Photos: C-FLE II
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Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 11:10 am Post subject: |
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dotnmarty wrote: | Would a VW TDI pull a 16 footer? |
Marty here's a link to a TDI forum section f gives information on trailer towing.
http://tdiclub.com/TDIFAQ/TDiFAQ-6.html#f _________________ marvin |
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lloyds
Joined: 02 Aug 2005 Posts: 1724 City/Region: sublimity
State or Province: OR
C-Dory Year: 1996
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: undecided
Photos: 1996 22 Cruiser (Lloyds)
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Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 11:45 am Post subject: |
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As far as I know, the only thing holding us back is EPA ratings and studies. Most of the stuff overseas won't meet the current spec's. I love my diesel and will probably never go back to gas. I would even consider the yanmar diesel outboards if they would send them to Jenny Craig for a little slimming. I know Les isn't too wild about the current crop of inboard diesels but I think they are making great gains in engineering. I really believe the future looks bright for diesels on the road and on the water. |
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ken westrope
Joined: 21 Mar 2008 Posts: 31 City/Region: ephrata
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2008
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: c-knight
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Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 4:47 pm Post subject: |
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I have a diesel Grand Cherokee ,yes it gets 25 mpg /18 city also 14mpg towing my cd-25. No issues with gears yet . is 5 spd awd., up stevens pass 4th geartowing the 25 apprx 40mph. |
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thataway
Joined: 02 Nov 2003 Posts: 20813 City/Region: Pensacola
State or Province: FL
C-Dory Year: 2007
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: thataway
Photos: Thataway
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Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 6:30 pm Post subject: |
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Byrdman--Gear Venders has made an over/under drive for many years. I have used them on trucks and RV's. They are available for most vehicles, with a little adaption in some cases. You can put the appropiate rear end ratio and get a good boast in performance.
Unfortunately many of the more recent diesels are getting worse mileage (read emissions control--hopefully this will be solved at some point). Dodge Sprinter down about 20%, I hear the same for latest Dodge trucks. Some of the other light trucks have relitatively "new" engines, so may not be comperable.
A couple of years ago, I saw a rig with an Isuzu cab foreward with a relitatively small diesel, which had a utility body and was pulling a 40 foot 5th wheel. The owner told me that it was a little slow over the grades but never dropped below 45 mph--not bad. As I recollect he was getting over 15 miles a gallon. _________________ Bob Austin
Thataway
Thataway (Ex Seaweed) 2007 25 C Dory May 2018 to Oct. 2021
Thisaway 2006 22' CDory November 2011 to May 2018
Caracal 18 140 Suzuki 2007 to present
Thataway TomCat 255 150 Suzukis June 2006 thru August 2011
C Pelican; 1992, 22 Cruiser, 2002 thru 2006
Frequent Sea; 2003 C D 25, 2007 thru 2009
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Home port: Pensacola FL |
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breausaw
Joined: 18 Jan 2006 Posts: 1222 City/Region: Anchorage
State or Province: AK
C-Dory Year: 2007
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Triple J
Photos: Triple J
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Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 7:06 pm Post subject: |
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One reason small diesels have been keep out of the US is because they can’t meet current EPA emission standards.
Until the refiners in the US change their ways, diesel fuel well bring a premium at the pump and erase any gains achieved by owning an efficient diesel automobile. Refineries in the US are engineered and designed to produce more gasoline then diesel, the opposite is true in Europe.
So at this point, current economics would seem to dictate that if more diesel vehicles appear on our US highways diesel prices will ski rocket.
Re-tooling of our existing refineries to reflect that of Europe is indicated if we are to switch to a more economical efficient diesel driven society. _________________ Jay
2007 22ft C-Dory Triple J 2007-2012
2007 25ft C-Dory Triple J 2012-2018
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Byrdman
Joined: 06 Nov 2003 Posts: 3320 City/Region: Cumberland River, Clarksville,
State or Province: WA
Vessel Name: " ? " After Rename Ceremony
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Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2008 9:34 am Post subject: |
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Wow... Some interesting reading stuff here guys.
Thanks to all for this link.
Byrdman _________________ Patrick Byrd "Byrdman"
Cumberland River TN home waters Puget Sound Summers.
Miss B - CD22A, Aug 2018
C-Byrd, CD18A, Hull #14 sold again.. May 2020
C-Byrd, CD18A, Hu #14 - Bought her again - May16
Aloysius, Sold to Brother Mike Mar16
Aloysius, Hull # 440 RF-246
C-Byrd, CD18A, Hull #14 Sold May09
TC24, Hull #51, Sold Feb06
CD16A, Sold Dec03
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Captains Cat
Joined: 03 Nov 2003 Posts: 7313 City/Region: Cod Creek>Potomac River>Chesapeake Bay
State or Province: VA
C-Dory Year: 2005
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Captain's Choice II
Photos: Captain's Cat
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Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2008 9:55 am Post subject: |
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Have seen lots of local ads for their small tractors. Wish Kubota would make a small diesel truck! Even better, one that my backhoe would hook up to!!
Charlie _________________ CHARLIE and PENNY CBRAT #100
Captain's Cat II 2005 22 Cruiser
Thataway (2006 TC255 - Sold Aug 2013)
Captain's Cat (2006 TC255 - Sold January 2012)
Captain's Kitten (1995 CD 16 Angler- Sold June 2010)
Captain's Choice (1994 CD 22 Cruiser- Sold Jun 2007)
Potomac River/Chesapeake Bay
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ckollerer
Joined: 07 May 2008 Posts: 19 City/Region: Rio Vista
State or Province: CA
C-Dory Year: 2008
C-Dory Model: R-25 Tug
Vessel Name: Blue Bayou
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Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2008 10:41 am Post subject: |
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Yes, the price of diesel fuel "will come down." Last summer, I purchased both a Ranger 25 (Cummins 150hp diesel) and a Ford F-350 Super Duty, to pull the Tug, of course. At that moment in California, in Sacramento, diesel was $5.19 a gallon, and I seriously questioned my own sanity.
However, my brother runs a constructions company in San Francisco that tows heavy materials all over the Bay Area, and they swear by hefty Ford diesel trucks, and they convinced me that, when you really need it (steep climbs, extra heavy payloads---read: full tanks of diesel and water on the boat, plus lots of personal stuff in cabinets, curvey downgrades on narrow highways) THEN, you must have extra capacity beyond technical tow ratings and safety standards.
Having towed Blue Bayou over 6 mountain passes above 8000 ft since then, numerous boat ramps, etc. I agree. Meanwhile, the price of diesel in Martinez, CA, is now $2.99. I wasn't crazy, after all. _________________ Charles
R-25 Tug
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morris_rl
Joined: 24 Jun 2008 Posts: 35 City/Region: Camarillo
State or Province: CA
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Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2008 4:33 pm Post subject: |
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Sea Wolf said in part:
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Anyone know of an efficient diesel bicycle or tricycle for old guys?
Joe.
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http://www.dieselbike.net/
_________________ Rodger Morris morris_rl@yahoo.com
Scouter, AE6JC, LASFS Life Member, and Sidewalk Astronomer
Unitarian Jihad Name: "Brother Rail Gun of Quiet Reflection" |
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Sam Walker
Joined: 26 Mar 2004 Posts: 196 City/Region: Wherever the RV is today
State or Province: SD
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Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2008 9:09 pm Post subject: |
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Hey Joe, there was a company working on a diesel powered Kawasaki KLR motorcycle for the US military. The good news is that it is supposed to get almost 100 mpg. The bad news it takes a $5500 motorcycle and turns it into a $17000 motorcycle. Only the good ol' US of A could do that. _________________ Sam on C's The Day or maybe Marinauty (Someday)
It does not matter how many moments that you take a breath, It is how many moments take your breath away. |
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Aiviq
Joined: 13 Feb 2004 Posts: 127 City/Region: Juba
C-Dory Year: 1985
C-Dory Model: 27 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Aiviq
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Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 10:00 am Post subject: |
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The mahindra website is listing the "hauling" capacity as "1.25 tons" - 2,500 lbs, I guess. Looks like a nice little truck.
http://www.mahindrana.com/Vehicles.html |
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