Reversing seat in 22

tparrent · Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2013 4:25 pm Post subject: Reversing seat in 22

Is there a standard way to fit the seat back cushion when sliding back the settee seat so that it is forward facing?

I feel like I must be missing something really obvious - or the builder did. When I slide the seat back, there is room for the cushion in front of the table but nothing to hold it up there.

Thanks

Sunbeam · Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2013 4:51 pm Post subject:

Here is a detail shot from another 2007 C-Dory (I think attachments have varied over the years). If this was the style of yours, I would think you would have this wooden "slot" piece on the seat box. Then it would be a matter of .... do you have the fiberglass molded "shape" that fits into it to support the back cushion? Maybe it's something you were wondering about the function of?!

(Or maybe yours works differently altogether).

This is from a 2007 named "Skeeter" that was for sale at one point in time.

tparrent · Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2013 5:08 pm Post subject:

I have that wooden bar with slots but not the fiberglass insert.

I suppose I could fashion a wood replacement - if I had even the barest minimum of carpentry skills, which if course I don't.

Does anyone know of a source for these or similar seatbacks?

bridma · Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2013 5:10 pm Post subject: Reversing seat in 22

On my boat, the forward part of the table is hinged. It drops down and forms the back rest. The back cushion is then put in place and secured by little straps and male poppers which connect to the female popper under the table.

Hope I described it ok. Sorry no pics.

Martin.

tparrent · Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2013 5:12 pm Post subject:

My table has a hinge there as well but the hinged part just seems to swing loosely. Maybe I need to take a closer look. I do have snaps on the cushion

Sunbeam · Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2013 5:17 pm Post subject:

I don't have the reversing seat at all, but I have seen the "non-fiberglass-thing" type in photos, and I would think it would be preferable. Then no need to carry "the thing" along when the seat is in table position.

So on the ones that just snap to the lowered table section... is there additional plywood stiffening inside the seat cushion? Or is it just the regular seat cushion completely supported by the part of the table that is flopped down?

Sounds like it is a matter of securing the flopped-down-table-piece so it is rigid, and then webbing/snaps to attach the cushion to the table when facing forward? (Or does it somehow use the snapped fabric flap that is already there to attach it to the bulkhead when facing aft?)

So far I'm fine with my boat without the converting seat, but... you never know.

bridma · Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2013 5:26 pm Post subject: Reversing seat in 22

Under my table attached to the column is a built in back stop. So when the hinged part of the table is lowered it rest against the back stop.

My seat cushion is reinforced (probably plywood) because it is the top to my storage locker below.

Martin.

Sunbeam · Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2013 5:31 pm Post subject: Re: Reversing seat in 22

bridma · Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2013 5:56 pm Post subject: Re: Reversing seat in 22

Sunbeam · Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2013 6:39 pm Post subject:

Thanks - sounds like a good setup, and no fiberglass "thing" to have to stow when the dinette is made up.

I think I have seen where something like a barrel bolt is used to support that hanging table flap on the boats that do not have a central table pedestal, so they are then probably also capable of using just the regular, foam-and-fabric back cushion.

ghone · Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2013 6:50 pm Post subject:

On my 22 the table leaf folds down, slide the seat box back, take the back cushion off the bulkhead and swap it to the drop leaf on the table. There should be a couple of straps with snaps on the cushion to snap onto the table leaf. I've usually put a pillow there for more comfort.

potter water · Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2013 11:09 am Post subject:

When the dinette is set up, the "fiberglass thingy" moves along with the cushion around to support the seat back in the backward seating position. In other words, it is always stowed as it is used either forward facing or rear facing.

Sunbeam · Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2013 1:15 pm Post subject:

tparrent · Posted: Sun Dec 01, 2013 8:18 am Post subject:

Apparently the methods of reversing the seat are endless! While looking through my boat for something else, I came upon this "cutting board" contraption and it all came back to me.

On my boat, you insert the "cutting board" in a slot in the folded leaf of the table and then into the wood frame on the back of the seat.

The trick then is securing the cushion - and I just couldn't figure out how to do it until some foggy neuron lit up and I remembered finding an ADDITIONAL cushion on the boat. Sure enough, I found the extra seatback cushion in the v berth and it has straps with snaps to fit around the leaf and secure the cushion.

The cutting board takes up almost no storage space (I had it behind the water tank) and, in a pinch, could be used to slice vegetables!

colbysmith · Posted: Sun Dec 01, 2013 10:37 am Post subject:

Just following this thread a bit. I have a 2007 and it uses the plastic insert for the reversible seat. Seems to me the hinged table would work better. The plastic does not provide much support and I imagine would break fairly easy if one were to lean back much. I have reversed the seat twice, but tend to leave it in the forward position. The table somewhat supports it from bending backwards, but when in the facing rearward position, there is nothing behind it helping to brace it.